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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:52 PM
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What would President Kerry do with this situation?
Let us assume 2004 will be similar to 2000.  Let's also agree
to ignore the Rocky Mountain states for the purposes of this
argument. 

Bush wins Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alabama,
Mississipi, Tennessee, Kentucky, both Carolinas, Missouri,
Virginia, and Georgia.  Let's leave Florida outside the
calculation.  

Kerry wins all of Gore's states, plus Indiana, New Hampshire,
and Ohio.  

By my first approximation, Kerry wins. With or without
Florida.

But a geographically contiguous group of states voted for
Bush.  Will they decide to secede from the Union?

If they do, how will President Kerry respond?  

This is not unlikely.  

My first response is "Let them go."

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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:56 PM
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1. I'll be damned!!!
You think the south will secede if Bush loses or even that it is "not unlikely". I'm sorry but that's crazy. There would be civil war within the states before there would be any serious consideration of secession.
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:58 PM
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3. Who will declare the war?
That was my point.  
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:01 PM
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7. I mean that I believe that there are enough
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 09:05 PM by democratreformed
citizens down here who will not stand for such nonsense that there would be hell to pay for whoever suggested it. You should have seen the crap we just had over the governor's suggestion of school consolidation. Here in Arkansas, at least, the majority of our legislators are still Democrats.

On edit: Oh, and I don't think Wal Mart would stand for that, either. They rely too much on the rest of the country.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:57 PM
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2. LOL
umm.... ok.

But I'd be more worried about the Aliens coming and installing their own leader.
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:00 PM
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5. You don't remember John Bolten and the Florida rioters. n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:05 PM
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11. Yes I do
and the idea that states will secede over the next election is still absurd.
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:58 PM
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4. ain't no way Louisiana would secede from the US...
...we're lazy, and only get up that kinda effort for a real good party...matter of fact, most of those rePub votes were 'cause folks here mistakenly thought that when they said "Grand Ol' Party" they meant Mardi Gras...
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:02 PM
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8. LOL!
Your reaction was better than mine.
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Spoon Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:01 PM
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6. I think the repub states have all the nukes!
If you include some of his rocky mountain states
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Freedom Is Slavery Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:06 PM
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12. And these nukes are controlled by the army
Who I quite highly doubt would turn those weapons over to Spurious George. They probably will think of Iraq, which I'll bet would probably still be a conflict at that point in the future.
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Spoon Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:23 PM
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18. Actually the Air Force
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 09:24 PM by Spoon
I bet the missiles can still be fired from the silos w/o contacting the outside, if the base's contingent really wanted to, ala Dr. Strangelove.

Edit: spelling
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Freedom Is Slavery Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:03 PM
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9. WWKD?
Honestly I doubt the election of Kerry will inspire civil war. In each state that votes for Bush, there should still be a hearty number of people who voted democrat. But even if, say 65% vote Bush, not that many of the Bush voters will have the desire to seceede from the Union. This strikes me as implausible.
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:09 PM
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14. I suspect wishful thinking.
65% is an overwhelming majority.  If 65% of the southern
states vote for Bush and he loses, I don't hold much hope for
the minority.
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Freedom Is Slavery Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:20 PM
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16. I suspect a tinfoil hat..
65:35. Fine. Do you really think that everyone who votes for Bush will want to seceede? For some reason, that seems more unlikely than a worst-case scenario. Even many of the most hardcore repubs. won't want to seceede, in my opinion. It's not like they seceeded when Clinton was elected. They'll just try to make Kerry's term a bitch..
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:47 PM
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22. Wal Mart, Tyson, how many others?
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 09:48 PM by democratreformed
These are just in my state. They will not let it happen. No way.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:05 PM
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10. You could email him about it and ask him to just expel them
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:06 PM
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13. All right, now DF, I am beginning to get angry with you!
LOL. Please don't have us thrown out!
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:17 PM
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15. shhhhh. it's my evil plan. Kerry receives all these emails demanding that

states that didn't vote for him be expelled from the country and a concrete and barbed wire peace fence put up. With checkpoints.

So the expelled states march en masse on Washington, throw out the whole status quo bunch, and have a revolution. The trick is that this is done by the 75% who don't vote.

The ones who voted for bush won't be any madder if the non-bush is an elected Kerry or a coup led by 99 squillion southerners demanding health care.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:27 PM
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20. squillion?
Gee, there must really be a bunch of us. ;-)
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:22 PM
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17. They won't secede
Especially not the South. Lincoln taught them that lesson.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:25 PM
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19. A lot of those states has Democratic governors...
This is really not going to happen.
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:30 PM
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21. let them go...
see how backwards they become...and then "liberate" them :evilgrin:
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