"Bill Clinton stunk up Oval Office"~Chris Matthews

[procopia]

Chris Matthews needs a ton of hate mail. He just said the only reason Bush is president is that "Bill Clinton stunk up the oval office and that people wanted Bush, a candidate with a clean personal record." (May not be exact quote, but close)

[mlawson]

1. I think that is the Real Tweety.

Occasionally he veers a bit towards our side, but we should always remember the subject line of your post.

[RummyTheDummy]

11. That is the real Tweety.....

He hates Bill Clinton because he got snubbed for the press sec. job in 1993.

Tweety is a real cocksucker and I find it amazing people's opinion of him on this board changes with the wind.

[mlawson]

15. OMG, that BigMouth as Press Sec'y?????

Yeah, just what Clinton needed: someone obnoxious asshole to represent him, every day.... :eyes:

[DinahMoeHum]

76. Yeah. What a goddamn crybaby. Did he just lose his pacifier??

:nopity::nopity::nopity:

[ShaneGR]

31. He fails to recognize what happened OUTSIDE the Oval office

That is the big difference. Clinton offered the nation the largest economic expansion in history and, with exceptions, peace. Bush has offered the worst economic record since Hoover, and nothing but blood.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. Question?

Can Tweety get out from under Bush's desk for a minute?

[Karenina]

4. Slurp, slurp, slurp!!!

Not just yet, I think he's still busy. :evilgrin:

[dennis4868]

10. Nope....

they are stuck to eachother for the rest of time.....

[dennis4868]

3. Huh?

How does Tweety know that Bill passed gas in the Oval Office. Only thing worse than that would be if Bill made a decision to invade Iraq based on lies and kill thousands of innocent people to get oil.

[Clete]

5. Tweety has been so over the top for so long about

the Monica scandal, that I am beginning to believe he's jealous of Clinton.

[morningglory]

48. Maybe jealous of Monica...

Thought of that?

[Clete]

49. Ooh Hoo.

No I didn't :-)

[corarose]

91. Tweety loves the way Jr looks in Jeans & I think he wanted to be Monica

I think that Tweety is so in love with Clinton that he hates Hillary and he wouldn't have given his left nut to be in Monica's shoes.

[okieinpain]

6. well isn't that true. my wife got mad at the comment, but I didn't

because it's true. most blacks don't care about clinton's sex life, but most whites who want to go around all high an mighty did hold that against clinton. I know a guy that had his own affair, but thinks clinton is awful because of the same thing.

[dennis4868]

8. Yep....

Newt Gingrich!

[swinney]

44. Newt--Bob Barr--Tim Hutchinson--Bob Livingston

How many more commited adultery as they hit on Clinton?

CLINTON WAS NO ---

CRIMINAL MILITARY DESERTER
CRIMINAL BABY KILLER
CRIMINAL COCAINE SNORTER
CRIMINAL DRUNK
CRIMINAL INSIDER TRADER
ALLEDGED(HE WAS) ADULTERER
ALLEDGED(HE WAS) ASSAULTER OF A WOMAN
PATHOLOGICAL LIAR READ MY LIST OF 191 BUHS LIES

BILL CLINTON NEVER TOLD ME ONE LIE ON POLICY. I STAND BY THAT REMARK UNTIL SOMEONE DISPROVES IT. I HAVE CHALLENGED RNC, TOWN HALL, NATIONAL REVIEW,WEEKLY STANDARD AND MANY REPUGS BUT NO ONE CAN LIST ONE.

"BILL CLINTON SUBMITTED THE MOST HONEST BUDGETS OF ANY PRESIDENT"

THAT WAS SAID BY NEWT AND JUNE O'NEILL WHO WAS GOP HEAD OF CBO.

HILLARY BOOK IS SO WONDERFUL, MARVELOUS.

[Jackson4Gore]

9. It is true

He is why Gore didnt win. He was an embarrassment in personal ways. He was right.

[RummyTheDummy]

12. Actually Gore didn't win because he couldn't carry his own damn home state

And that is a REAL embarassment.

[dennis4868]

14. Gore did not lose....

nuff said!

[RummyTheDummy]

18. You're right, technically....

But had he carried his own home state or West Virginia the Florida issue would have been moot.

Nuff said!

[dennis4868]

23. he did not need his home state....

he had enough ELECTORAL VOTES withiout Tenn. to become President of the United States! NUFF SAID!

[RummyTheDummy]

28. How do you figure that?

He came up what four shy after the Supreme Court disaster? I'm pretty sure Tenn. has more electoral votes than four.

He carries it and the Supreme Court is totally out of the equation.

Nuff said!

[buff2]

42. What makes you so sure Tennesee wasn't RIGGED too?

Nuff said.

[RummyTheDummy]

46. Well, because I don't wear a tin foil hat, that's why.

He failed in other close states too. I suppose they were all rigged. Can you at least admit Gore made some mistakes in his campaign?

I'm not sure there's ever been a presidential campaign executed to success or failure that didn't include mistakes. I find it hard to believe Gore is the first person in US history to have bucked this trend.

The truth is somewhere in the middle. There's no doubt he got fucked over, but there's also no doubt his staff made some strategic blunders.

[Cheswick2.0]

64. he won, what mistakes did he make?

there was more fraud in TN than FL. No tin hat about it, you can ask the voters....unless you think they are all liars.

[RummyTheDummy]

73. Prove there was fraud in Tennessee.

Prove there was fraud in West Virginia or any of the other states where the vote was close.
It could be proven in Florida, but to deny his campaign blunders is to say they ran a perfect campaign. There has never been a perfect campaign.

[mbee]

83. Show me a paper trail of all votes in 2000 and I'll show you who won

Tennessee, FL, TX, WV. It was Al Gore and, no I can't prove it, but neither can I prove my vote was counted here in MD either!

[mbee]

81. Gore receive more votes than any presidential candidate ever with

the exception of RayGun! We don't know the total votes because of the fraud commited by the Right in the exercise of abuse of power in FL and by the high court. Had the votes all been counted and had black voters in particular not been disenfranchised Gore would be in the White House! We face a problem not of whether Democrats will win, but rather if our votes will be counted! People seem to think a different candidate will solve this problem. It will not!

[okieinpain]

19. he didn't carry his own state because of clinton. don't get me

wrong I love me some clinton.

[Fescue4u]

45. He didnt carry his home state because of his deciding vote

In the Democratic self destructive act of 1994 (aka Assault weapon ban)

That act in 1994 doomed his election 2000.

sad but true

[PurityOfEssence]

20. Gore's distancing himself from Clinton hurt more

Putting Quisling Joe on the ticket for no other reason than his having been the first major Dem to publicly turn on Clinton and not using Bill's extraordinary political skills for support showed the Republicans that Al was on the defensive. The monarchists smelled blood and never stopped.

The timid fight in Florida sealed his fate.

I hate to slag Gore, he's the most screwed person in American political history short of perhaps Tilden or Aaron Burr, and I feel sad for that. I also somewhat like the guy.

Clinton was a huge asset and a sizeable liability. By not availing himself of the former, Gore was hurt by the latter. In the end, it was Gore himself who truly defeated Gore, but that's not something I really want to hold against him.

I hope he stays out of the campaign, and I think he's smart enough and decent enough to do just that. (That's a different argument.)

Oh, and lest we forget: he won the election. He won the popular vote by more than a half million votes, and he won Florida by any way you count it, even given illegal no-vote lists, a first recount that was never completed and a host of other thieveries. Kathryn Harris, Jeb Bush, Tom Delay and James Baker are filth. The felonious five are worse.

[chaumont58]

29. As the English say: "well said"

On point.
To mention one other thing: Gore was the Democratic nominee in 2000 BECAUSE he was selected to be Vice Presidential nominee in 1992. Gore, by himself, didn't bring shit to the 1992 ticket. He repaid that political gesture with a knife in the back.

[PurityOfEssence]

67. Yes, and as Monica would say:

it didn't make a lick of sense.

[okieinpain]

38. that's true, but you have to admit the monica deal painted gore

into a corner. you also have to admit that the media was not to kind to gore in 2000. it easy could have been monica 24/7, it's a hard call, it's almost like betting the house on 1 card.

[PurityOfEssence]

66. Yep.

Clinton is his own worst enemy some times, but the monarchists still just went shockingly overboard with their persecution. No argument there. Clinton handled it badly, too. No argument there, either.

As for the media, I said pretty much said that, and any cursory look their actions show a rabid reactionary bias. It's also sad testimony to the 3rd grade recess playground that is grown-up America: they'll pick on the nerd much more than they'll pick on the prick.

I still think that any hubbub raised to the effect that "Gore is morally tainted by not distancing himself from this libertine" would have been overbalanced by "this is part of the team that made everything so good for y'all", and the endless spitting hatred and puritanical frenzy would have been a major turn-off to the swing-folk to boot.

Who's to say? I do think that erring on the side of jamming yourself in their faces and fighting an aggressive war rather than a defensive one is always the best way. Comme Napoleon: "L'attack, toujours l'attack." You can only win in a defensive war if you're in possession of the territory, and Gore was not the incumbent.

Whatever.

Your points are very well taken, and I appreciate the tone.

[CWebster]

92. "this is part of the team that made everything so good for y'all"

Don't know what ya got 'til it's gone.

[SharonAnn]

69. No, the gun issues killed him in TN, that and Clinton's BJ

We're full of righteous gun/religious nuts here.

[CWebster]

26. No doubt it was a contributing factor

anyone who disputes it is in denial.

You do have some guts to make such an unpopular statement.

[PurityOfEssence]

70. Well, as an unrepentant quibbler...

I just gotta dispute that.

When things are so close, any one thing that swings any one state can be claimed as that whut done 'im in. I'm sure we could find an issue in one of the other close states like New Hampshire and tout that as the last torpedo, but it wouldn't be the "real" answer either.

The distancing himself from Clinton and not making pre-emptive attacks on Junior's pathetic "character" and deplorable record were far-reaching and tone setting mistakes, putting him on an apologetic course.

You're right, though (hey, I even quibble with myself, but then I AM a liberal, after all) and some hot-button issues should be sidelined in close elections. We have a lot of fringe issues (that I'd be angrier about if they directly impacted me) that threaten to crop up in this election too. Gay marriage, medical marijuana and the "under god" crap are just three that I can think of. Mercifully, gun control isn't much of an issue this time around.

If you're going to be bold about unpopular things like gun control, you have to be bold across the board. Hell, let's just say that you have to be bold across the board.

On edit: this was meant as a reply to Post #69, re: losing Tennessee

[CWebster]

93. "When things are so close..."

It should've never been anywhere near close.

Clinton took a couple of potshots at Gore, publically criticised him. It was more than Gore just distancing himself---to the best of his ability.

Damn...now you tell me you're addressing someone else? LOL!

[RowWellandLive]

71. Gore "lost"

because of the abysmal legal arguments put forth by himself and his advisors, his legal team notably David Bois, and the Florida Supreme Court (in a 4-3 decision). The pivotal 5-4 Bush v. Gore decision gave the election to Bush, but the 7-2 decision that the equal protection clause was being violated in Florida was the most telling. Even two liberal Justices did not agree with the haphazard, biased, no uniform "counting" of the votes that was going on in the counties. To not insist upon a statewide recount done with uniform standards by non-partisan neutral methods was pure folly. To further argue, as Bois did in front of the Forida Supreme Court, that he agreed with the certification date dead line being immovable sealed Gore's fate. You cannot give that kind of ammuntion to a U.S. Supreme Court that is stacked against you. I don't agree that Bush stole the election, it was handed to him by all of the above in combo with the confusing Butterfly Ballot that it was our reponsibility to notice before the election. This was a Democratic County in a pivotal state, there is no excuse for overlooking that disaster before the election. That is why Gore "lost."

The reasons it was so close are twofold; guns and Clinton. Gun control is a losing issue and we should drop it. The 2nd Ammendment is as important as the others. As for Clinton, he did great things at the same time as he stunk up the office. Getting BJ's from Monica was one thing, but he clearly had a sexual weakness that was beyond what most could relate to. What he did was stupid and potentially dangerous. Lying about it under oath and well after the time the truth was obvious pissed people off. Luckily the Reps went too far with impeachment, but most people still were angry at Clinton for the whole situation. I'm not sure what Gore could have done. His distancing from Clinton seemed to be entirely politically motivated. I don't claim to know what the best way to deal with the Clinton legacy would have been for Gore, all I know is that it had to have seemed heartfelt. Gore's using of Clinton seemed to be purely strategic and therefore phoney. It ended up not really pleasing anyone.

I ecpect to get flammed big time for the above comments. I'm ready, have at it.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

77. Very well written and argued. No flame here.

I like your thoughtful analysis. I agree completely that if the dem lawyers had demanded a 100% statewide recount, Gore would have won Florida. The appearance of "cherry-picking" doomed their fate.

[unfrigginreal]

47. Get a Grip

To begin with Gore DID WIN. Secondly if Gore had run on the Clinton Plank Bush wouldn't have been close enough to steal it.

Third, Gore's a pussy, he should have fought for us like he claimed he would!

[Name removed]

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[jonnyblitz]

61. I agree.

[dansolo]

88. Lieberman hurt Gore more than Clinton

n/t

[Booberdawg]

22. It's true

Clinton's personal behavior was appalling. The right wing overplayed it, but Clinton gave them the ammunition. And Matthews is right, it did cost Gore the election.

I don't agree with everything Matthews says, but just because he doesn't sugar coat the facts is not a reason in my book to dismiss him. It's one of the reasons I like him.

Linda

[dennis4868]

27. What cost Gore the election was..

Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush, Tom Delay and the Supreme Court....if the damn votes were counted, Gore wins, and we would all be saying that it was brilliant by Gore to not allow Clinton to campaign for him.

[Booberdawg]

37. I won't argue the election wasn't stolen

because it WAS stolen.

But none of that would have mattered had Clinton not indulged in blow jobs in the Oval office. It helped bush into the White House.

So many "if only's"

*Green vote in Florida
*Votes that went to Buchanan
*Gore didn't carry TN
*Gore didn't carry AK
*Gore didn't use Clinton to campaign
*Gore didn't run the most effective campaign
*Katherine Harris stole the state
*Supreme Court stole the election
*Delay shut down count
*etc, etc

[RummyTheDummy]

39. There's no doubt Clinton hurt Gore.....

Though I still find it odd that's the case given Clinton's approval rating as he left office.

But it can also be argued that without the eight years of prosperity this country enjoyed under Clinton Gore would haven't been within striking distance to even keep it close.

It's a sort of shit in one hand, wish in the other quandry. You make some real good points though. So many what ifs.

[procopia]

59. mmmm...don't think so

The people who didn't vote for Gore because of Clinton's behavior are probably the same ones who wouldn't have voted for any pro-choice candidate.

And in spite of the votes lost because of Clinton's misbehavior, because of the Greens, because he lost Tennessee and Arkansas, because media favored Bush...in spite of everything, Gore still got more votes, even in Florida.

Therefore, the ONE reason Bush is *president, is that the Florida votes weren't counted.

[shrike]

79. A hostile press cost Gore the election

Read "The Press vs. Al Gore," Rolling Stone article from last year or so, and you'll be convinced, as am I.

[shrike]

80. Al came across very well

in Sid Blumenthal's book. Most of Clinton's help came from behind the scenes, since Al asked him to lay low, so Sid says. I wouldn't mind letting Al have another shot at it. He'll have polish his media skills, though. Sid pointed out, quite rightly, that playing fair, which Al tried to do, doesn't cut it in today's political arena. You have to come out swinging if somebody slimes you. Hopefully Al's learned that lesson and will keep it in mind the next time around.

BTW, I very much believe if they hadn't gotten Clinton for Lewinsky they would have come up with something else. Example: the Paula Jones deposition (where Clinton 'lied') was an obvious set-up. They were out to get him, and if Monica hadn't happened, today we'd be mad at him for something else.

[PaDUer]

7. Emails...

AND FAXES...maybe his head was turned and missed everything about the thugs and what they've been doing...send him the articles on the abortion..let him know!

[Avalux]

13. He dissed Chimpy too - here's my take

Tweety said that was the ONLY reason he's president. That people were sick of the Clinton sex stuff and saw chimpy as having a clean personal record.
Think about it - he's right. It's the only reason people voted for chimpy. Such a good christian man; the perception - he doesn't do anything wrong. The fact that he's an alcoholic, former drug user and AWOL made no difference - he's a saved man; found religion. Sick.

[Booberdawg]

32. That's true

They saw Gore as part of the bathtub ring of the Clinton/Monica dirt. Repukes made sure the country was absolutely sick of the whole subject with their endless investigations and impeachment. It all hurt Gore's chances and without it Texas wouldn't be missing their village idiot.

[unfrigginreal]

60. What the hell is your problem with consensual sex?

All of your posts paint Clinton in the same light as the Repukes did during the impeachment proceedings. Yeah, he had an affair while in office, big fucking deal!

[in_cog_ni_to]

86. I couldn't agree more!

Clinton's personal sexual affairs don't compare to the Iraq Invasion lie. I think Chris Matthews is an asshole...why isn't he screaming every night about the chimp who lied? How many people died during those BJ's?

[never cry wolf]

36. that is a valid point

which i why it is imperative that the truth about the squatters gets out.

[Dem2dend]

65. Ok then

How are we going to stop the same people from voting for him in 2004 if his agenda supports the Christian agenda and that's why you think he "won" in 2000?

The further left we move, the more likely we are to allienate that same group. We need to punch the fact that Bush's actions run contrary to Christian beliefs.

[Cha]

16. Clinton is not my favorite person right now but if he

"stunk up the Oval Office" when he was there then chimpturd turned it into a Garbage Dump.

[KoKo]

17. Matthews doesn't answer his mail and why bother.....I don't know why you

all still watch him......but to each his own.........

[chaumont58]

21. Last night, PBS had a documentary on Watergate

I suppose now because of the recent Jeb MacGruder statement that Nixon knew about the break-in and even ordered it. I watched it and couldn't help but compare Nixon's crimes with Clinton's 'crimes.' People like Tweety fueled Delay's stampede to impeachment. Whatever the source of Tweety's hatred for Cliton, that hatred is real and not imagined. It is amazing that he and others like him give no quarter to Clinton but swoon over the smirking chimp. Tweety blames Clinton for current occupant of the White House, but if he were in a mind to know the truth, he sees the real culprit every morning when he shaves. Tweety and Margaret Carlson and Fat Tim the slug and the so-called liberals from the Capitol Gang have blood on their hands, the blood of 130 plus dead American soldiers.

[janx]

24. Who on EARTH was the airhead chick on Matthews tonight?

She would not shut up, and just kept babbling things that made no sense and that were not true.

[RummyTheDummy]

33. I'm not sure, but she seems like a real tramp.

NT

[janx]

34. I'm going to watch again later. All of these right wingnut women

come off as such airheads! They talk just to be talking. And this one was one of the worst I've seen yet.

[RummyTheDummy]

35. What I find amazing looking at this tramp and Coulter.....

Is that they simply don't understand that most white bread baptist church going Repukes (a sizable portion of the party's demographics) believe women should be seen and not heard. In the kitchen and preggers.
They're almost as idiotic as the Log Cabin Repukes.

[kentuck]

41. It was Betsy Hart..

I don't know where she's been for the last couple of years??

[Benhurst]

25. "people wanted Bush"? Yeah, I guess as stretch

you can call the Supreme Court's Felonious Five "people;" but the American voters chose Al Gore.

[JackSwift]

30. Only because Tweety ignores

Bush's sleazy personal history.

[Emillereid]

40. Sent off the following letter to that smug asshole, Matthews

Here's a copy:

I can't believe that Chris Matthews would claim that Bill Clinton stunk up the White House and that George Bush was (s)elected because of his clean image. If you establishment reporters would just do your job you'd find plenty that smells about George W. First, as a 'youth' (age 40) he was quite the wild one with booze, parties and mayhem. He was arrested for drunk driving and disorderly conduct (at a football game of all places). There are strong indications that he was arrested for possession of cocaine -- but Poppy had that purged. Even if he wasn't arrested, his evasive answers regarding cocaine use amount to a confession. Furthermore, this chickenhawk President went AWOL during his stint in the Texas Air Guard -- a prize position that he got only for being his father's son. It was a way out of Vietnam that many a young man who went would have preferred. But the ungrateful, spoiled Dubya had the unmitigated gall to go AWOL and run out on this cushy job. He got into college on a rich man's affirmative action and had the poor taste to brag about his poor performance. He engaged in questionable business practices that should be properly investigated.

Since he took over the presidency of course he has set the country on the roller coast disaster ride of all time. The ultimate insult of course was to send our fine young people to conduct an immoral, illegal invasion and takeover of a weak, sovereign country, spending our treasury with abandon, as he fantasies about geopolitical domination and empire -- and all the oil his rich cronies can put in their tankers. Unfortunate for his crazy plans, it appears that the Iraqi people have other ideas - so sadly we are enmeshed in another God awful quagmire.

Do I wish that Clinton had not indulged his adolescent sexual fantasies -- you bet. And do I wish he'd not been asked about it and set up to lie. Right again. But does the moral turpitude of Clinton's sexual transgressions match George's -- not by a long shot. I think a stupid, private, extramarital affair with an intern smells like perfume, in comparison to the moral rot that reeks from the hypocritical, self righteous, warmongering bunch we now have in the White House.

Respectfully,



In case any of your reporters decide to do their journalistic homework concerning the above accusations instead of just whoring for corporate media, let me know -- I'll be glad to give them a few good leads.

[oasis]

63. Good...give 'em hell...I hope they read it. (eom)

+

[XanaDUer]

43. Chris, you mean "stank up the oval office."

:eyes:

[robbedvoter]

50. Then why did they vote for Gore?

[billbuckhead]

53. Gore got more votes than any Democrat in history.

It took a lot of fraud to defeat him. Most of this fraud was in the South.

[Yentatelaventa]

52. How dare him!

Clinton was the best President that America has ever had! The nerve!

[Chesapeake]

54. email addy?

does anyone have?

[procopia]

68. [email protected]

.

[59millionmorons]

55. Forgive Matthews

He is still upset Clinton turned him down for his press secretary. Nothing worse than a tweety scorned.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

56. Is there a journalist left who isn't stinking up the airwaves?

Pot, meet kettle.

[maha]

57. Tweety needs a head job

From time to time I send Tweety an email expressing hope that the GOP pays him real well for the infomercials he does for them. Sounds like time for another one. }(

[samsingh]

58. Matthews regularly stinks up the airways

useless media whore

[MODemocrat]

85. Does Matthews really spit when he talks ?

Since I don't have cable, can only imagine what he's like. I've read on DU that he shouts and spits from excitement. I feel sorry for him, as that must hurt pretty badly to be turned down for a job when one thinks of himself as being so great.

[unfrigginreal]

62. Amazing that so many Democrats fall for your headline!

Most of us just experienced living the best eight years of our lives but are ready to trash President Clinton because he had an affair. Jesus Christ, am I reading the Freeper boards? Clinton won every election that he had to, don't blame him for elections lost when he wasn't running.

[whoYaCallinAlib]

78. Nicely put.

I'm sick of people blaming Clinton for Gore's "defeat". Clinton gave Gore the best economy in our history to use as a springboard for his election. Obviously, Gore didn't take full advantage of it.

[Catherine Vincent]

72. Matthews is playing both sides of the fence.

Although he's playing to the right more these days but recently he was hard on * regarding the SOTU lie and I am sure he received a lot of emails from right wingers because of that. He had to say something like "Clinton stunk up the WH" to get back in grace with the * lovers.

In other words, Matthews is just another MEDIA WHORE. Otherwise, he'd lose his job.

[UTUSN]

74. Tweets Does NOT Play BOTH Sides

He has been OVERWHELMINGLY a partisan wingnut operative at least since the FAKE impeachment and DEFINITELY every cable day of Campaign 2000, when he ridiculed GORE relentlessly. And he has been EMBARRASSINGLY sychophantic of Shrub.

His token opposition to the Iraq attack EVAPORATED as soon as the invasion began. His CRUMBS to us on the SotU are CRUMBS. When Enron broke in January 2002, he studiously IGNORED it all, launching into a 3 or 4 months' CRUSADE about the Middle East, and I don't know of ANYTHING he has done on Shrub's corporate skeletons AT ALL to this very day.

He will do ANYTHING, as when he badgered Kathleen WILLEY about naming the "jogger" then, when she wouldn't, named the WRONG person himself, which led to Pat BUCHANAN's mentally ill brother into a GUN INCIDENT at the WRONG person's house.

He actually began his slide to the wingnut side when RAYGUN demolished the Dems because he is a FLUNKY who worships STATUS AND POWER. Face it, we liked him when he was OUR flunky-THUG, and now he is THEIR FLUNKY-THUG.

[Q]

75. More 'personal opinions' from so-called journalists...

- I long for the days when 'reporters' just reported the news without injecting their slanted opinions.

[procopia]

82. And another thing...

How can Clinton have "stunk up the oval office," anymore than his predecessor did by having an affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald? (We know he did; Linda Tripp said so) So why didn't the stigma of his father's affair transfer to Bush just as much as Clinton's affair transfered to Gore?

[mbee]

84. The media makes a lot of money every time they mention the names

Clinton or Kennedy it's that simple. When the mention bush people turn the TV off because the man isn't popular. About 35% of the country wants bush for the tax cut end of story. That's why they have to buy the media off to present the fantasy that bush is popular. Tweety will be begging for a job when the real liberal media takes off. I can't wait!

[dansolo]

87. The media never reported on Bush's personal record

Bush's history is far more sordid than Bill Clinton's. It's just that the media (including the uber-whore Matthews) never bothered to report on all of the information that was out there. The other thing that Matthews is ignoring is that Clinton was not the one who was running.

[corarose]

89. If people wanted the Piece Of Shit then why didn't he win the selection?

It's going to take years for them to get the stench out of the oval office and Whitehouse after the Bush Thugs leave office.

[dennis4868]

94. I just hope....

they will allow us to have an election for President in the year 2004.

[Clyde39]

90. This "stench" is 1000 times more potent

But, as he announced at his recent press conference, "We are all sinners!"