What must it be like to be Karl Rove?

[Maat]

How do you look yourself in the mirror? What kind of country exactly do you want? Supposedly, the president's chief advisor stated that he wanted a one-party-dominant country, so he essentially doesn't want USA to be USA? I have a M.A. in Psychology and I can't fathom why one would want to destroy democracy as we know it.

[bearfan454]

1. They are sick.

Really. Destroying America is not good, and I don't care how they spin it and say it is.

[saigon68]

19. Remember Lee Atwater

Rove is nothing compared to that guy.

[rasputin1952]

23. Atwater was one evil bastard...

he died of cancer, but I'm not sure what type. I tend to think it was brain cancer, but I could be wrong.

Rove is more Karl Bormann, while Atwater was more like Himmler, to use historical personalities. Rove works from behind the scenes, Atwater liked being out front. Both are dedicated to what they believe, just different methods in execution. It is sad such energy is used for destructive purposes. Evil goes where it grows best.

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[buckeye1]

2. Some people resign from the human race,

to quench unmanageable ambition and vanity. Nothing else matters.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

3. Lucrative, I imagine.

What else is there for someone like that?

[EstimatedProphet]

4. Karl Rove and the others...

are so busy being blown daily by their own personal suck-ups that they don't even know there's an outside world anymore. Thye don't make decisions based on other people because they no longer think there are other people outside their circle.

[Bake]

5. It's a power trip, pure and simple.

Why would anyone want to destroy democracy? It's not that hard to figure out. Democracy is a threat to KKKarl's POWER, and to the right wing's power. Nothing is more important to them than power, and they don't give a damn who or what they destroy to get it and keep it. Just like Stalin and Hitler in earlier times. Just like Machiavelli.

Power and money. Appeals to the basic (with the emphasis on "base")human instinct -- GREED.

Bake

[grasswire]

6. I could understand that...

...except for the fact that he has children.

His own childhood was awful -- his father left the family on Christmas Day when he was a boy. So I can understand how he could turn against the world.

But he has a daughter. Is the pathology greater than his family? I guess so.

[Bake]

27. Shit! Even monsters have children.

They just make really, really crappy parents.

YOu'd think that having children would teach a person just a teensy bit about compassion, love, and giving of oneself. But noooooooo...

Bake

[coloradodem2005]

7. Rove: Why am I an ugly fat little fuck?

[Skittles]

8. he doesn't have a conscience

he doesn't feel a g.d. f***ing thing

[buckeye1]

9. Here is a bio.

Its mostly political.

http://bnfp.org/neighborhood/Lemann_Rove_NYM.htm

[Maat]

10. Thanks, guys.

You're all right. It's just hard to imagine. If I were there..I would want to be helping the disadvantaged...encouraging debate...maybe I'm too idealistic.

[rasputin1952]

11. I have been thinking about what it would be like to be...

ANY of these people. I couldn't do it, there is no way I could rationalize myself to that level. I cannot be that base, at least not as the person I am now.

A lot of people have said that Rove had a bad childhood, deprivation and all that, but bush had an easy childhood, so I think that while society may play a role, they were taught how to hate and feel no remorse by whatever adult contact they had. Just as a child is essentially non-racist, they can be taught to hate. That teaching does not have to be overt either, and it crosses all racial, social and religious borders.

It has been said that we are defined by our actions. If that is so, then the Rovian/bush coalition will be defined as the most horrid administration this nation has ever known. They are trying to set up a new royal class, with all but the nobility, serving them at their every whim. They would make us serfs.

Rove is an evil man. I would suppose that some are born with a disposition to evil, but there is nothing to support that. He is an incredibly harsh and ruthless man. His pain runs deep and his hatred is nourished every day by the sights he deals with as he goes about his Faustian ways. The price that others must pay for his vanity is high. I would not like to get close to the man, he is disgusting. I see nothing but darkness about him.

I feel sorry for him. I hope that he can feel love someday, or perhaps he will have an epiphany of sorts. They say you have to get on the bottom of the barrel before you can rise up. In the human scale of things, he can't get much lower.

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[Maat]

12. You're right.

[Stephanie]

14. I don't know that Bush had such a great childhood...

Of course they had money, but would you want to grow up with Babs for a mother? It's not surprising he grew up to be a Chimp.

[rasputin1952]

17. perhaps 'great' is too strong a word...

I guess I would say above average fiscally, and below average as for parental skills. It is important to look at the other bush boys, they are neither too bright or particularly imbued w/moral standards. The whole pack lies, steals & cheats their way to whatever goal they have chosen, (or had chosen for them). None of that clan has ever had to work a 'real' job. The only thing they know about dirt, is that they wash it from their hands, then someone else dries those hands. It disgusts me to no end.

Spoiled brats all, w/cut and slash policies that leave death and devastation in their wakes. Let's not forget, g bush was more than happy to cut the funding for assistance in heating costs, that cost lives; people literally froze to death.

Death; another thing that seems to preoccupy these knuckle draggers. I cannot recall anyone who found so much glee in signing death warrants as g bush, his big headed brother in FL is not much better.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on like that, but coffee has not yet coursed through my veins, and my nicotine level has dropped. Besides, I just despise the creep.

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On edit: Babs is a bag lady as far as I'm concerned. The difference is, I feel sympathy for bag ladies, I cannot find sympathy for her. I used to think she was an "everyones grandmother" type. Not any more, she is a person with no feelings towards anyone but her brood.

[rasputin1952]

18. deleted: dupe, sorry...

n/t

[lebkuchen]

13. Rove is an American product invention to be used just once

like condoms, Christmas crackers, cattle castrators, designer tampons, exploding whoopie cushions and dissolving swizzle sticks...

He'll be gone soon. Hang in there.

[Stephanie]

15. Karl Rove=Not A Genius

Karl Rove is highly overrated. Did you know he's a college dropout?

I can't believe anyone takes Rove seriously. He's a joke. All of his stunts fail because they're such cynical lies.

[rasputin1952]

20. I know a lot of people that are intelligent that are also...

college drop-outs. But most, like myself, quit because we had to go to work full time. Rove quit because it was advantageous politically, (or maybe he got tired of getting his ass kicked), he saw his bread basket and jumped in.

He is a dark person, an evil entity. I can only hope he sees life in a different light. Rove is the type of person that would throw old tires in front of a blind man, and take wheelchairs away from kids.

Ruthless to the core, if I could see his soul, it would look like a rotting raisin.

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[Bunny]

25. I think you have nailed it precisely.

Evil. Pure and simple. Rove behaves the way he does because he likes it. There are dark souls in this world, he is one of them.

He doesn't want to be the front man, he wants to be the man behind the curtain. But he relishes wielding power, crushing those who oppose him. Because he likes it. It's what keeps him engaged and interested.

The banality of evil, thy name is Karl Rove.

[rasputin1952]

26. The most evil people in the world...

stay behind the scenes, they do not wish to be exposed, for exposure only brings to light the deeds they do.

As far as Rove is concerned, bush can take the hits as CiC, as long as bush takes the hits, the radar is off of him. He goes merrily along, with few being the wiser.

He is evil incarnate, risking nothing of himself, but willing to sacrifice all to attain his goals. The more that perish, the more he can consolidate power.

The world has always had these people, and our own Founders knew this, that is why the Bill of Rights was attached to the Constitution. To Rove and his ilk, the Constitution is nothing more than a piece of parchment, he has no concept of people being crushed beneath his boot.

I will be SO happy when they leave in Jan '05!

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[saigon68]

22. Rove can cause trouble

Ask any thoughtful gay couple what they think of him.

[Stephanie]

24. yes, I have heard some rumors

about Rove hypocrisy

[captain_change]

16. Read Robert Ludlum

From his age and mysterious parentage, old Ludlum would say he is a "Sonnenkinder".

As per the Holcroft Covenant

..."Operation Sonnenkinder", which seeks to establish the Fourth Reich by ... Nazi children which were hidden throughout the world at the end of the war...

But lets not get too crazy!!!

[rasputin1952]

21. That was a great book...

n/t

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[AlinPA]

28. He was probably delirious with all that power; whatever he said,

Bush* did. His order to go to war and sending orders to the media must have made him feel very powerful. Now, things are backing up on him and he is starting to feel confused. He is still in charge, but too many things are getting out of control.

[maggrwaggr]

29. read the book "The People of the Lie" by Scott Peck

It explains evil people.

It's difficult to understand evil people because they do not think like normal people. Their thought processes are all upside-down.

That's why they get away with so much. Because upon first meeting them they can seem harmless, even buffoon-like. They are always underestimated.

[proud patriot]

30. This is Karl's world

http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm
The Prince
by Nicolò Machiavelli
Written c. 1505, published 1515
Translated by W. K. Marriott
http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm