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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:23 AM
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WH doctor steps in it, big time.
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:28 AM by sniggles
from Josh Marshall, via AP:

"The White House obtained the dental record, along with other medical records it did not release, from the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver, Colo., McClellan said. The record was accompanied by a statement from Dr. Richard J. Tubb, the president's current physician, who stated that he read Bush's records, which covered a period from 1968 to 1973, and concurred with the doctors' assertion that Bush was "fit" for service. "The records reflect no disqualifying medical information," Tubb said.


Well, OF COURSE the records reflect no disqualifying medical info. Bush NEVER TOOK A PHYSICAL after 1971. But the absence of any urinalysis doesn't prove he wasn't taking drugs. The statement from the president's M.D. only clouds the issue, by raising the question: "Well, if Bush wasn't disqualified medically, why wasn't he willing to take a physical so he could fly, per his stated intention when he joined up?"

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 AM
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1. If I were trained to fly one of those jets
you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming out of the cockpit.

Bush is an amazing creature.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:27 AM
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2. amazingly dull.... n/t
*
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:30 AM
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3. That is an interesting point.
My impression is that all fighter pilots love to fly.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:39 AM
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5. And Shrub tells everyone he "loved" flying so much.
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:52 AM by JohnyCanuck
I'm with you DS1, I wanted to be a pilot from the time I had my first flight in an airplane at the age of 5. I got my private pilot's license but due to medical issues couldn't get my commercial and make flying a career as I had hoped. If I had been in Shrub's shoes I would have thought myself the luckiest guy in creation and would NOT have blown off that type of opportunity by deciding I just wouldn't show up for a medical one day. Loved flying my ass. The only way frat boy really liked getting high was by sucking the white powder up his nose, not by strapping himself into an F102.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:46 AM
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6. I think he was scared shitless flying...........
those aircraft and for good reason. It is obvious that his brain can not focus clearly and concentrate on the subject at hand.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:51 AM
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7. If he were a real human his sense of duty would have demanded
he fly. It cost a million in 1970 dollars to train the little pissant. That whole TANG unit was a stunning waste of tax dollars. As much so as W* is waste of oxygen.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:37 AM
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4. WTF do his dental records
have to do with anything? I don't care if he ran the ironman triathalon, he was AWOL! All they have to do is prove he was there!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:52 AM
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8. Fortunate Son
A dental exam is a very MINOR part of a flight physical. The biggies are diabetes, glaucoma, and medications. Right before Bush was scheduled to take his flight physical, the military introduced drug testing. Also according to Hatfields book "Fortunate Son", right about this time Bush, the party animal, stopped doing everything for a while to work with some disadvantaged kids in Houston. Sound anything like community service? According to legend, W was busted for cocaine around this time, but Daddy buried it for him. As soon as he was done with the kids program, he went right back to partying with a vengance.

Bush said he didn't take his physical because his doctor was in Houston. He was in Alabama. This is a crock. Any flight physical has to be administered by a certified Aviation Medical Examiner, not your personal physician, and the military has its own.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 10:01 AM
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14. the dental records show
that although he wasn't serving, he had no qualms about using taxpayer funded health services when he had a toothache. Conservatives whine about taxes but are the first in line when it comes to using services paid for by taxes and are the loudest whiners when the services are not prompt.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:53 AM
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9. This is a long-shot, and I won't make excuses for the POS in the WH,
but is it possible the aircraft was becoming obsolete and they were cannibalizing parts to keep them operating? I wouldn't want to fly under those conditions either, but I know this is a long shot.

(I knew someone who had to fly another obsolete aircraft to a "boneyard".)
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:58 AM
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10. Lt. Col. Wm. Harris was one of 2 commanding officers
who could not perform dubya's annual evaluation between 1972 and 1973 ... and, there was Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, another Dubya commanding officers ... it might be nice if these 2 could serve witness of the moment ... but, they are dead.

Lt. Colonel William Harris, Jr.
Lt. Col. William Harris was one of two commanding officers who could not perform George W. Bush's annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973. They stated in their filing that "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Fortunately for George W. Bush, Lt. Col. Harris is not here to verify his 1973 statement. He's dead.

Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian
Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian was another of George W. Bush's commanding officers. He cannot testify in a court of law as to George W. Bush's dereliction of his sworn duty. Lt. Col. Killian is dead.

Note: we were unable to find details on the deaths of Lt. CoLs. Killian and Harris, only that they were dead. The names are included because they were relatively young men, whose deaths were convenient to Bush.

Bush Went Awol

Sid Adger
Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of unknown causes. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard.

General James Rose
General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of unknown causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed.


http://www.bushbodycount.com/voices/thelist.php?catid=2...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:16 AM
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11. A light-bird in the '70s being dead in 2004
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:16 AM by DS1
isn't particularly incriminating.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:30 AM
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12. The way they are cherry picking the information they release is damning.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:52 AM
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13. Josh Marshall's site is one of the best on the web
I loved this part of his story on the dental records......


"Can I say this is getting a little bizarre?

Thank you.

This is getting a little bizarre.

Scott McClellan says no blanket release of the president's military service records. No medical records. No disciplinary records, if they exist.

But dental records? Bring it on!"
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