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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:15 AM
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Why is Daschle still senate majority leader?
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:16 AM by Woodstock
On Diane Rehm someone was saying they gave Daschle the safe stuff to say in the SOTUS rebuttal. Because of his tough race in November. Nancy Pelosi got the hard hitting stuff, because she is in a safe district.

Now, this year is of the utmost importance to us. Can you imagine the Republican leaders playing it safe under such circumstances? They'd be going for the jugular on a daily basis. Bush has done SO much that can be vigorously criticized. But Daschle must bite his tongue to satisfy his conservative constituency. SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.

By any objective standards, one could not say Daschle has done an exemplary job. So why not let, for instance, Kennedy take over, at least until the election? He'd give them hell.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:17 AM
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1. It helps Daschle launch his reelection campaign
reminding South Dakotans that if he goes they won't get perks like a party leader can bring
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:18 AM
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3. So we sacrifice the country for Daschle's relelection bid?
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:20 AM by Woodstock
Sorry, that makes zero sense. He could do other things to win his own race other than tank the chance for a Democratic presidency and several other races that another more effective leader could help other Democrats win by being more effective.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:33 AM
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10. Didn't say it made sense
just that that's why he was giving part of the rebuttal.

But honestly, the Rebuttal isn't so big a deal, most people don't watch it, and Pelosi covered the heavy0hitting stuff.

I'm more concerned with their absolutely horrible delivery
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:51 AM
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15. Pelosi was doing a great job, Tom just sniveled
What a gutless turd.

If I voted for him, I wouldn't admit it in public.
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DemLikr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:30 PM
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21. Pelosi's Gloria Swanson eyelift makes it difficult to focus on anything
coming out of her mouth. She looks like she's in a permanent state of being goosed.

And Daschle always seems medicated. Not an ounce of passion or rhetorical uplift between the two of them; that performance is our party's predicament in a nutshell: NO BALLS.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:52 PM
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22. The SOTUS isn't the main point - look at the big picture
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 01:01 PM by Woodstock
The question was, why is he the senate minority leader?

The rebuttal was just an example of his situation restricting his effectiveness as leader of the Democratic party.

The bigger picture is far more important than a SOTUS rebuttal.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:49 AM
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14. I don't get it!
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:17 AM
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2. Kennedy or Durbin
Daschle seems to think playing nice and kissing Bush's ass is a winning strategy, despite the enormous success Republicans have had playing dirty.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:21 AM
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4. It's so obvious, isn't it?
All they have to do is say, gee, this is how the other guys are playing.

They control all branches of government and we are dead in the water.

Hmmmm, maybe we could try some of that?
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:56 PM
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23. it's been obvious since 1994
Either our leadership's heads are in the sand, or Karl Rove's money is in their pockets.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:21 AM
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5. I thought Daschle had the better response
more class-based arguments, where Bush is most vulnerable.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:22 AM
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6. Dem Rebuttal SUCKED!
Both Pelosi (a candidate for awfulplasticsurgery.com site) and Daschle absolutely made me livid with their absurdly limp, weak rebuttal. I would have LOVED to see Kennedy!

Frankly I was more upset at Daschle than GWB. He's totally worthless, worse than worthless...he's the GOP's best friend. LOSE HIM!! NOW!
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:24 AM
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7. He and Terry McAuliffe can take a long hike IMHO
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:25 AM by Woodstock
They are completely ineffective. In private industry, with results like that, they'd have gotten the heave ho long ago.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:31 AM
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8. AMEN TO THAT!
And same to post #6 to.

And do we WONDER why people SCREAM so often "WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS?" The question people should instead be asking is: "WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS' BALLS?"

And I'm Lu Cifer and I'm back from the dead, chillin' at the beach down at Club Med
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:32 AM
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9. Milquetoast
No wonder we lost in 2002.

The crop of Dems and their leader(besides Byrd and Pelosi) are Bush kissing GOP-lovers.
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Bush loves Jiang Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:01 PM
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18. Pelosi's a wimp...
She voted for Homeland Security.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:02 PM
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19. She doesn't sound like a sniveling goon like Daschle
Thats for sure.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:45 AM
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11. Why doesn't anyone run against him?
The last challenge he had was against Chris Dodd and I think that may have been 10 years ago.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:54 AM
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12. I wish he were but alas we no longer are in the majority
He is the minority leader though and the other Senators like him there. They are closer to the battle so I defer to them.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:58 PM
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24. My typo in the title - I meant minority leader - & I disagree
I don't defer anything to them.

A lot of the Democratic base is unhappy with their performance. And things are going to get worse if we make a poor showing in November.

WE WANT A PARTY WITH A BACKBONE!

I defer nothing.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:48 AM
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13. You're going to make Tom "deeply saddened"
He might have to cry.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:59 PM
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25. Hilarious!!!!!! Thank you
I needed that. :)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:51 AM
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16. I understand your point, but Daschle is the minority leader...
...I wish he were the majority leader, but, sadly, 'tis not the case. Yet.

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:53 AM
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17. I take exception to the term "leader"
When discussing Daschle.

Pelosi has more fight in her earlobe.
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justsam Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:25 PM
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20. nothing they could say
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 12:29 PM by justsam
there was nothing the Dems could really say, they gave the chimp the patriot act and voted to let him invade Iraq, Bush had Daschle between a rock and a hard spot and he knew it.. it's too bad that a pic of Kennedys face couldn't have been flashed in front of Bush while he was lieing.
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