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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 05:57 PM
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GOP Students Claim Left-Wing Bias at U of Colorado
So why are they still going there?

http://news.lycos.com/news/story.asp?section=MyLycos&storyId=815672

BOULDER, Colo. - Republican students at the University of Colorado launched a Web site to gather complaints about left-leaning faculty members, saying they want to document discrimination against conservative students and indoctrination to the liberal viewpoint. "We want concrete examples of bias in our arsenal when we go to the administration, the regents and the Legislature," said Brad Jones, 20, chairman of the College Republicans, who launched the Web site last week.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:01 PM
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1. Yeah, I have a complaint
My Calc teacher is a mooslim, and I told him that he shouldn't even be allowed even live in our great Christian nation, let alone live there. Anyway, he told me that he found that remark offensive and then gave me some BS line about him "just being there to help us learn." So, in patriotic protest, I stopped attending that class. And he failed me, because I am conservative, and because I won't fall for his America-hating brainwashing.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:10 PM
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5. yes
...and they had me read Marx, which is not at all part of the Western canon and anyone who is forced to read it is being indoctrinated.

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carrowsboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:02 PM
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2. Freeptards respond
Reply 1 - Posted by: johnow, 1/20/2004 4:24:51 PM

Keep it up kids. Your doing the important stuff.


Reply 2 - Posted by: cubiclecommando, 1/20/2004 4:24:54 PM

tape recorders in the classroom/lecture hall would be a good first line of defense...


Reply 4 - Posted by: GettaClue, 1/20/2004 4:38:03 PM

Birthplace of the Granola Heads. Boulder is full of 35 - 45 year olds who haven't gone past age 19, mentally.



Reply 7 - Posted by: Annie Colorado, 1/20/2004 4:43:12 PM

My son youngest son graduated from CU a few years ago, said the place was rampant with leftist professsors and airhead students. He spoke out in lecture halls against abortion and shocked one professor into numbed silence but only for a few seconds. He graduated with honors in finance but never looked back with fondness on his years at Boulder. He is still a die-hard Republican and votes in every election.


Reply 8 - Posted by: nattering_nabob, 1/20/2004 4:45:48 PM

Travis Leiker, 22, president of the College Democrats at CU, said classrooms are full of different perspectives. "I think the conservative students who feel there is a bias are more afraid of hearing points of view different from their own," he said.

No, you RAT, it's that the students who do not subscribe to the politically correct Leftist Commiecrat method of thinking are shouted down, told to shut up, have their newspapers burned or stolen, or are giving poor grades when they dare to contribute to the "diversity".


Reply 14 - Posted by: clw54, 1/20/2004 5:03:47 PM

This Bintliff woman doesn't understand what's happening. She's now the establishment, and the young Repubicans are the counterculture. The roles have revesered. Better put some ice on it, Ms. Bintliff.



Reply 16 - Posted by: USSALASKA, 1/20/2004 5:06:53 PM

There go those right wing extremists, wanting proof, imagine proof, using concrete facts, not invented slights, but real facts....wow........ it's no wonder that the faculty has their drawers in a knot.

It just doesn't make me feel good, using reality... those rotten, little, thinking, young capitalists. They hate mother earth, they love money and filthy air and dirty water and unborn babies....... Oh, wait, I thought I was writing for the DU.


Reply 19 - Posted by: saryden, 1/20/2004 5:54:17 PM

The Liberals (Left) have had it their for many, many years in America's universities. They, like the Democrat Party, are shocked and traumatized to see their bully pulpit slipping away.
There may be hope for our capitalistic Republic, after all!!! Go students!
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:07 PM
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4. Good idea!
Reply 2 - Posted by: cubiclecommando, 1/20/2004 4:24:54 PM

tape recorders in the classroom/lecture hall would be a good first line of defense...


The only problem is, tape recording a lecture without the prof's knowledge is a violation of intellectual property law.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:16 PM
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8. Why would they have a problem with the law?
Imperials and their followers are above such petty concerns.

And, of course, the fact that students recording "subversive" professors more rightly belongs inthe Old Soviet Union.

At the bottom of their black Freep hearts they WANT the Old Soviet Union. So long as THEY are the Comissars and Party Members.

They're already well on their way.

Don;t be shocked when they finally arrive.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:26 PM
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12. I'm not one to throw the word Nazi around
But with their recent tactics of trying to intimidate everyone they don't like into silence, the College Republicans are starting to resemble the Hitler Youth a little more than they'd like to admit.
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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:30 PM
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14. Taping lectures
has been common for decades hasn't it? I certainly taped lectures 20 years ago without permission and without a second thought. Is that no longer common? I would think it was more prevalent now than ever given all the devices that record.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:36 PM
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18. Taping lectures is common
But a professor's lectures, syllabi and things of the like are the intellectual property of the prof and the university. So, if you're doing it without their knowledge/consent, then technically, you are violating the law.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:08 PM
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28. It is customary...
... to ask the instructor's permission to tape his or her lectures. I've never heard of anyone objecting, but it's still best to ask.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:13 PM
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7. "bully pulpit"??
Bully pulpit?? In academia? A-ha ha ha ha ha ...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:05 PM
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27. "Oh, wait, I thought I was writing for the DU."
It just doesn't make me feel good, using reality... those rotten, little, thinking, young capitalists. They hate mother earth, they love money and filthy air and dirty water and unborn babies....... Oh, wait, I thought I was writing for the DU.

Fat chance, moran!

Keep it up kids. Your doing the important stuff....My son youngest son graduated from CU a few years ago, said the place was rampant with leftist professsors and airhead students.

Clearly no CU -- or high school -- grads in this bunch...

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:03 PM
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3. Because instilling the victim mentality in aggressors
is key to a Totalitarian mentality.

Keeps the troops motivated, you know.

So that if you can sell a Nazi that he's being victimized by the Jews while he and his cohorts are completely in control, it will keep their rage boiling and allow that they will "gfo that extra mile" to "do whatever needs to be done" so that the "victim" can stop being "victimized".

I have absolutely no doubt that MOST Nazis felt victimized by the Jews as they were beating them, torturing them, liquidating them.

While the Busheviks are not commanding their minions to go that far...yet...the need to instill the victim mentality in aggressors is the very same.

But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:10 PM
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6. Alright already
repeat after me, "the earth is flat, god made everything in seven days, without jesus you are fu*ked, darwin was a dope, brown people are not really people like you and me."
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:16 PM
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9. yes!!
The ultimate example of 'indoctrination' (if you want to call it that) is teaching religion in a science class!

The freeps must answer to this hypocrisy.

That is why freeper colleges (Bob Jones, anyone?) will never be any good, because they don't respect science. The Catholics and mainliners accept science and they have fine institutions.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:33 PM
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15. Bob Jones astronomy
heh- I was at a meeting of astronomers in Atlanta a few weeks ago. A bunch of undergrads from BJU had research posters.

Every single one of them was about observing binary stars and calculating their orbits. I think that's because that's one of the few things you can do in astronomy that doesn't require you to accept that the universe has, well, been around for a while.

It's a shame these kids can't do research in cosmology, or galaxy evolution. These are some of the hottest areas in astronomy today (unlike binary star orbits, for sure), but their school won't let them experience it.
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:24 PM
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10. I had a professor

I had a Poly Sci professor at Purdue who was really into Castro and Cuba. I talked to him at length about it. But that didn't mean that I agreed with him.

College students are supposed to be at that mature stage in life where they can agree to disagree. You can write papers suggesting that Jimmy Carter was a communist as long as you support it in a cohesive fashion.

Beyond this, I'm not sure how you would put a liberal spin on music, math or engineering. If they are flunking students because they wear blue blazers and ties to class thats one thing. However, if their profs are just hippies who aren't teaching the Republican version in their "Vietnam War History" class, thats something else. Academics are supposed to be free thinkers.

Those young college Republicans don't realize that they've already been indoctrinated into a hierarchical organization that neither desires nor encourages free thinking among anyone but their leaders.

Hippies aren't nearly as disciplined. You can generally say whatever you like and just splinter off into another organization.

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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:38 PM
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20. Not picking on you, but I would like a clarification...
"Hippies aren't nearly as disciplined. You can generally say whatever you like and just splinter off into another organization."

I have tried to interpret the statement and jusy don't get it. Please expand the statement, or explain to me exactly what you mean. By the way, I am one of those 'former hippie' academics and I have found that I go very far to present a completely balanced argument. That requires discipline, because much of the material I present quite frankly, gives me the creeps, but it is part and parcel of the theory.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:43 PM
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22. You hit it on the head
College students are supposed to be at that mature stage in life where they can agree to disagree. You can write papers suggesting that Jimmy Carter was a communist as long as you support it in a cohesive fashion.

The point of higher education isn't to teach you reading, writing and 'rithmetic. You are expected to have learned that in your primary education. The idea is to teach you how to think clearly and cohesively.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:54 PM
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25. Actually, To learn how to learn!
:nopity:
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:25 PM
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11. Why don't they just transfer to Anal Roberts U?
Gee, I went to college and found some liberals there!

Oh my fucking GOD!

After being home-schooled, well, it came as a huge shock to be surrounded by all those evil satan-worshipping intellectuals!

Mommy! Daddy! I want to come home!
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:27 PM
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13. Shocking! Universities are veritable hotbeds of liberal thought!
Who could possibly have imagined such a thing - and in AMERICA, too!!
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:35 PM
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16. time and place
And they seem to think that the "liberal bias" of universities is specific to the last forty years in the United States.

No, dummies. Universities are by their very nature forward-thinking. That's what they do. Always and everywhere.
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SlainteMhath Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:36 PM
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17. Good grief
Next thing they'll claim is that Berkley is liberal leaning. Why don't they give it up?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:46 PM
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23. B-E-R-K-E-L-E-Y
is no longer the left-leaning place it once was. There are quite a few conservative professors there as well.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:37 PM
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19. Oh no! My university had a CONSERVATIVE bias!
I want my money back!

What jackasses.
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gold_bug Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:41 PM
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21. their website is barren?
I was expecting to see some evidence of left-wing bias in action on the campus but I can't find anything of substance on their website.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 07:14 PM
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29. Follow the links...
The wee darlings have had their say. http://i2i.org/articles/2003I.pdf
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:51 PM
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24. I live in Boulder
I'm pleased to say that the silver lining here is that these crew-cut rich-kid bots from SoCal and Dallas all get cycled out by the by. They don't stay - they all depart with their diplomas, $40,000 SUV's and trust funds.

Summers are great - you can actually find a place to park once in a while then.

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 06:55 PM
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26. In my entire college experience
I had two professors that were overtly political in the classroom, one liberal, one conservative. In most of my classes, the subject matter was completely A-political in nature.
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