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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 04:37 PM
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Zell Miller: What are the rules if any for party ouster?
Obviously Zell will do more damage campaigning as a "Democrat for Bush" than as a simple ship jumper and that's the whole point. But is there any circumstance in which he could be stripped of his party affiliation? If not (because Dems don't want to send a message that we are "not inclusive") I'm not sure why I don't see prominent Dem leadership (is there any) publicly decrying his total lack of principles. He should be publicly called out and asked to join the Republican party if he's going to support their policies and presidential candidate...

He's obviously not going to vote with any Dem bloc, so his presence as a "number" among the Dems is of no value. His party affiliation is only of value to the Republicans as propaganda.

Has there been any calling out by prominent Dems? Seems that this is something that whoever the nominee is ought to do BTW. It is certainly an easy issue to comment on without even being unduly harsh, just pointing out the fact that the guy does this and doesn't change parties shows that he is by definition unprincipled.

I see this topic raised from time to time but have seen no facts presented.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 04:39 PM
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1. good question
As a U.S. Senator, isn't Zell a "Super-Delegate" to the Democratic Convention?

Could his credentials be challenged.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:28 PM
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9. His vote is only about 1 out of 3000
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 04:43 PM
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2. I believe OSHA regulations
require that you test the ignition switch with a ciruit tester before wiring the specified device to it.

OH... I'm sorry, what was the precise question again?

</sarcasm>
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 04:51 PM
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3. Jefferds
At least Jeffords had enough sense to switch party. Miller should be stripped from all committes and his seat should be moved to the other side.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 04:51 PM
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4. I vote for tarring and feathering, a practice ripe for renewal...
.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 05:02 PM
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5. Maybe we should just revive Athenian ostricization
"Ostracize is from Greek ostrakizo, ostrakizein, from ostrakon, a piece of earthenware, a potsherd. Ostracism, banishment by potsherds, was practiced at Athens to get rid of a citizen whose power was considered too great for the liberty of the state. Each voter wrote on a potsherd the name of a person he wished banished. The man named on the most ostraka was exiled, normally for a period of ten years."
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:20 PM
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6. I *think* that Daschle or McAuliffe have some power to
strip him of comittees, and other perks and privileges. But don't hold your breath.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:29 PM
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7. Seems like campaigning for the repuke gets you kicked off
the team. I hate the thought of Miller being a super delegate. They should at least pass a rule that if you are campaigning for the enemy, you can't be a delegate.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:40 PM
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15. Amen...
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 10:43 PM by flaminbats
This would be an excellent time to abolish the autocratic, superdelegate. The politicians can be delegates, but let them have no more sway than any other elected delegates. :thumbsup:

This position will also give Zell the opportunity to be a keynote speaker for shrub at the Nazi convention, while allowing him to also participate in the Democratic Convention. We don't need superdelegates, and certainly not the ones who feel they no longer need us!
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:00 PM
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8. I haven't found any rules for party expulsion
in the Senate, but I found this one article from New York for a candidate that the party tried to have expelled, but failed.

http://www.ex-iwp.org/docs/2002/primary%20redo.htm

I hope there are procedures in the Senate for removal of party affiliation for that turd Zell. I'm still looking.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:25 PM
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10. I guess he will have a heart attack
when Democrats win in November. As has been said "there is no fool like an old fool". His book will make him look like a fool. I do wish there was something that could be done about him before then but if not off into the sunset he'll go after the election.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:28 PM
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11. Whatever--------*I'm* Ready----He's OUT!! n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:33 PM
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12. I too would like to see him out of the party, but only after
I get to kick him in the nuts a few times.

The day Bush came to Atlanta to lay a wreath on Dr. King's crypt, Miller had the nerve to introduce him at the Republican fundraiser which was the real reason for the Bush visit. It was disgusting to see his ugly face on TV that evening.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:39 PM
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13. Please leave some for me...
Zell nuts to kick, that is
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:40 PM
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14. dunno
But perhaps a class-action lawsuit from people who thought they were donating to the campaign of a Democrat might be useful. I'd sure feel defrauded if I'd donated to his campaign.

Of course, it would be thrown out because the precedent it would set would make it impossible to hold office, but the publicity would at least show where he stands with *real* Democrats.
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manfriend Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:05 AM
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16. Bolting for Bush
http://www.forward.com/issues/2004/04.01.09/oped1.html

Ed Koch is going to support, maybe even campaign for bush.
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