Let's have no more talk about comparing Bush to Hitler.

[reprobate]

The new Suskind book proves that bush is not comparable to hitler. While the worst that can be said about hitler doesn't even come close to the truth, he was a master orator, a leader of men, and a combat veteran.

George W. Bush is none of these things. The only reason he was run for president (I say "was run" because it simply wasn't his decision), was that his brother Jethro was tainted by previous scandal in florida and they felt this disqualified him. Jethro was the family pick and was being groomed for the part. He's smarter, more articulate, and more politically savvy than Captain Codpiece and would have been the candidate were it not for his background.

So don't compare him with hitler. Compare him with the Wizard of Oz. Cheney is the man behind the curtain.

[thebigidea]

1. "He can be all these things and more!"

[Sterling]

2. He just really admires Hitler

No he lacks Hitlers talent, that much is true. He more than makes up for it by the fact he has hijacked the might of the worlds most powerful nation. He is just as dangerous maybe more so.j

[fishguy]

3. Personally, I think Bush acts like Napoleon

[ElementaryPenguin]

15. Bingo, Sterling!

Perfect post!

:toast:

[Erica Cartman]

4. Excellent post.

I wish others here understood what you wrote. Your words are very important.

Thank you.

[childslibrarian]

5. You make a reasonable argument

and I like the Wizard of Oz analogy. Because isn't this why they are attacking O'Neill so vigorously...the most damning part of his revelation was the "blind man in a room full of deaf people" analogy--that Cheney fired O'Neill ...that Cheney is in control? Yeah, talk about some secret documents, that will divert the average American...

[Terwilliger]

6. probably a good idea

I think most of the ignorant sonsobitches in this country would probably vote for Hitler anyway.

[ParanoidPat]

7. O.K.!

:evilgrin:

[bain_sidhe]

8. I like Margaret Cho's line

He's not Hitler. He would have been if he'd just f*king applied himself, but he just isn't.

[truth2power]

17. I'll go with that.

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Bu$h ain't no Hitler

but he's still a Nazi. Or at least the 21st Century version of a Nazi.

[monobrau]

10. More like the mayor in Robocop

-nt

[Cleita]

11. You're right.

My money is on Arnold. Bush was the foot in the door. Arnold is being groomed to be President. He will be the fuhrer, but not like Hitler because the real power will always be with the corporate overlords. They are planning an ammendment to make it possible for Arnold to become President. Hitler was not a German but became one in a day by a ruse they devised to make him a citizen of a state that was under the sovereignity of Germany, thereby making him a German practically at the same time of the elections.

A few other similarities are that Arnold also comes from Austria. Not that this is really important just peculiar under the circumstances. He became governor of California under peculiar circumstances like Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. He had to pretend to be a centrist like Hitler did initially to get enough votes. He is already corrupt. We know that, so he will be drawn into their web. He won't be able to back out when he finds he is in too far. What is unfolding might be worse than the Third Reich.

The thing is the people planning this really aren't that smart. They are just not above doing anything, no matter how evil, to attain their end much like any organized gang of crooks like the Nazis, which gives them a certain amount of dangerous power and ability to accomplish things through fear. I think they will overreach, like the Nazis did, and will be brought down in the end. I really hope America can bump the Republican thugs before this happens. We must win in 2004. We must learn from Germany not to let this mistake repeat.

The mistake was rolling over for every demand the Nazis made until they made too many. It was Britain and America that allowed Hitler to gain the amount of power he did because they did not think he would carry out the plans that he did. We are doing the same thing here. This Moon and Mars baloney is another outrageous demand and we shouldn't give into it.

[Karenina]

16. Mad Max scenario!

Bitte nicht, Cleita! Ahhhnulllld :puke:

"I really hope America can bump the Republican thugs before this happens. We must win in 2004. We must learn from Germany not to let this mistake repeat."

What a concept! :bounce: :toast: :bounce:

[GreenArrow]

12. How 'bout Nero

fiddling while Rome burns.

[Cat Atomic]

13. He's a *spokesman* for Hitler.

Like Reagan, he's an ignorant tool. His only real duty is to put a reassuring face on the ruthless policies of corporate power. Bush himself even admits as much ('I don't read the paper, I let my advisors interpret the world for me').

[greatauntoftriplets]

14. Hitler was democratically elected.

n/t

[Cleita]

18. Not exactly.

However, everything Hitler did had a veneer of legality, kinda like Bush. Instead of the Supreme Court appointing him, it was President Von Hindenberg who appointed Hitler chancellor after an election, which although it gave him a majority of votes, still didn't give him enough to win. After Von Hindenberg died Hitler took over the Presidency and became commander in chief of the armed forces without being elected. Hitler paid attention to the appearance of legality, but in fact he didn't give much thought to how honest it was only how convenient.

[amber dog democrat]

19. Hitler was a combat veteran

and vastly more intelligent. Did not mean he was not evil either.

I can't think of whom to compare the chimp to..... maybe Maxmilion of Mexico?

Montezuma of Mexico? Napoleon? Tsar Nicholas ? The Phsa of Iran ?

Santa Anna ? there are lots of inept rulers out there to choose from....

Lon Nol of Cambodia?

but NOT hitler

[bobthedrummer]

20. But what about Prescott Bush's trading with the enemy-The Third Reich?

What about Operation PAPERCLIP that recruited Nazis, many of them war criminals, and gave them identities and jobs as Americans working in national security? And in some cases, the families of these Nazis.

Those PAPERCIP Nazis found their American political home in the Republican RW. They were influential in the Republican Party during the 50's and even to our present day IMHO.

Here is some history:

How the Bush family wealth is linked to the Jewish Holocaust
by Toby Rogers
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html

Prescott wasn't alone trading with the Third Reich in the United States of America during WWII
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/waryearsp5.html

National Archives documentation link
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/holocaust_era_assets/bibliographies/trade_with_third_reich.html

What about these Nazis and the Bush family connections?
And the neo-conservative fascists of today?

[Cooley Hurd]

23. Wouldn't it be great if Holocaust survivors were to sue the BFEE?

...from http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html

<snip>
A case can be made that the inheritors of the Prescott Bush estate could be sued by survivors of the Holocaust and slave labor communities.
</snip>

You can't BUY publicity like that!

[Stephanie]

21. You are so right! And we REALLY don't pay enought attention to Cheney

How many of us know, for example, that Cheney flunked out of Yale? Cheney got an opportunity, as a nobody from a Western state, to attend Yale for reasons of football and a hometown patron/alum. BUT, Cheney could not hack it at Yale, and dropped out after a year or so, returning home to Wyoming to amass DUI's and finish his schooling at the state university.

[bobthedrummer]

22. Hello.

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