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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:17 PM
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Is the Bush administration beginning to go insane?
I know, I know, we all think they were insane already. But it previously was a controlled, focused insanity, the administration intent on advancing the evil agenda of it's most conservative, hawkish elements.

But now they ave gone all wacko.

Immigration policy? Mission to Mars? Who do they think they are fooling? Do they think that liberals are suddenly going to flip for Bush? Do they honestly think that this will do anything but anger and confuse their conservative base?

I think the cracks are showing. Rove is not the genius everyone thinks he is.

They are going insane.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:18 PM
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1. The house of cards effect
the rate of collapse will only increase. Very Nixonian
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:18 PM
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2. beGINning?
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:10 PM
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19. You stole my reply. ~~silly grin~~ n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:19 PM
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3. Desperate acts
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 10:19 PM by DoYouEverWonder
by desparate men. I wonder how many more Americans here and abroad, will they try to kill before it's all over?

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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:19 PM
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4. Crazy like a fox
nc
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:36 PM
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12. look at the calendar
The immigration stuff and Mars/Moon exploration stuff came out RIGHT BEFORE the O'Neill interview and book release.

Okay, it's true we just got a rover on the moon. But, still, unnamed admin officials were spewing stuff to the media ON SUNDAY for quote on Mars adventures ten years in the future.

Come on, unnamed officials are working on Sunday calling up the media about Mars?

What else was happening on Sunday? Oh yeah, Paul O'Neill.

Just in case you didn't notice, this news manufacture/mgmt. has been part of the Bushie/Rove playbook for a long time.

Remember when Ashcroft had to have the barebreasted statues in his Justice Dept. photograph backdrop draped? He could have done that on any day. It was January 25, 2002. It made big news and the late night guys had a blast with it.

Do you remember what other news broke that day? Cliff Baxter was found shot dead at 2 a.m. on January 25, 2002.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:09 PM
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18. Farmer's Almanac
It says that for everyday of fog since October 1st, I should expect a day of snow.

No wait, that's just an old wive's tale.

Some old wife says that for everyday of fog since Oct. 1st, I should expect a day of snow.


:shrug:
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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:19 PM
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5. Rove would have * humping Barney if he thought it would get votes.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:24 PM
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6. But how can these policies possibly get more votes than they lose?
I'm not even debating the worthiness of either of these initiatives. It's just that I see them as very confusing moves politically, something I didn't expect from Rove.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:25 PM
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7. actually these ARE good strategeric moves for them
immigration policy is always a good way to build your party. even well-informed immigrants feel they owe something to the party or politician that helped them into the country. works for the whole famdamnily.

and the space program? a no-brainer, very inspirational and exciting, and the $$$$$ impact won't hit until well after the election.

are their motives transparent? of course, they're starting to push less radically right plans and kareening toward the 'center' and, especially, looking for things that are neither left nor right. sugar for all pols. everybody loves a mars mission. cooool.


insane? well, they're doing exactly what *i* would advise them to do (had i permanently misplaced my conscience, that is).
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:33 PM
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11. See this post:
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 10:42 PM by Finnfan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=310930

Americans are NOT fooled by the Space exploration stuff. The Bush administration announces this AFTER the shuttle disaster and less than a month after a Mars probe was lost. This was VERY poor timing. Hell, I love the space program and I think this is nuts to consider right now.

As for immigration policy, Bush has spent the last 2 years doing everything he could to demonize immigrants, much to the delight of his base. Say you're a right-wing nutjob; are YOU thrilled about a bunch of illegal aliens being allowed to have jobs in the US?

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:27 PM
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8. But how can these policies possibly get more votes than they lose?
'Too close enough to call' is 'close enough to steal.'

They don't need to 'win' 60-40, or 40 states.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:28 PM
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9. insane enough for four more years?
yeah, probably
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:31 PM
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10. "Beginning"?????????????? n/t
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:41 AM
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28. LOL, my thoughts exactly
nt
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:36 PM
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13. Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad
It's an old Greek saying, and it was a terrific Star Trek episode. A scientist somehow became omnipotent, he could do whatever he wanted. The absolute power, with nothing to stop him, drove him insane.

Sound familiar?
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:39 PM
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14. The answer is yes
Someone ought to do psychological studies of all of them....should be interesting.
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americanconfusion Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:07 PM
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17. Frusturation setting in
I beleive they just see that the younger generation is much more liberal than the older generation and that hurts because they know that the end is near. So in order to prevent that they shoot these ideas that are trying to apeal to the general population. But I think people are fed up and arnt buying it.
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americanconfusion Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:05 PM
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15. Mars? haha
Ya haha missions to Mars will be aways off unless that is there plan to move Iraq there so we can have the oil. I hope if we do reach Iraq Bush rides the spaceship there. I mean its his project he should volunteer. There are no Paul Oneils on Mars.
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WealthAndDemocracy Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:07 PM
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16. I don't think it matters if the media spins it as business as usual
most of the clueless masses don't care anyway.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:38 PM
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20. just keep that football...
....away from Cheney for the duration of the term.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:42 PM
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21. Ever hear the saying "A horse kicks the hardest just before it dies"?
This may be it. The end of the BFEE. It's my hope anyway.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:48 AM
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25. Or "High horses have slippery saddles"
I made that one up for one of my old bosses. She's a sociopath like the * admnistration. She's still a sociopath and I'm retired. :evilgrin:
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:02 AM
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27. That's a good one
Once a sociopath, always a sociopath I say. :)
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:42 PM
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22. It doesn't MATTER if * angers his conservative base
Who else are they gonna vote for in November? Dean?
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:06 AM
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24. Pretty slick of the Republicans to "run outta money"
...for alot of state primaries where someone else could challenge Bush & Co. for the Repub. nomination...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:50 AM
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26. Yeah, like here in Colorado - a deep red state! n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:55 PM
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23. I think we will see a gradual implosion.
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