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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:21 PM
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Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us. We should never forget these words:
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 05:22 PM by Cannikin
" Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defense; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research -- these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel."

"Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

"Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war -- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years -- I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight. "

Not bad for a republican...

Read the entire document: http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:23 PM
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1. prophetic...we are living this nightmare scenario out right now...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:23 PM
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2. Ike: The Last Honest Republican
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:25 PM
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3. I wanted to say that!
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 05:27 PM by Cannikin
Somebody should post it at freerepublic.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:26 PM
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4. Wasn't around for Ike (wasn't even a thought yet)
but for some reason, Clark reminds me of Ike.
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:53 PM
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5. Clearly electing a former General is the answer
Right guys? Come on, that makes sense, doesn't it? :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:23 PM
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:56 PM
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11. What an unecessary and stupid jab....
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:03 PM
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6. Ike was still a product of the Cold War. But he was, I believe...
at heart a smart and decent guy who tried to do what he thought was the right thing for what he thought were the right reasons.

I remember seeing the films of Ike walking amongst the stacks of bodies at a just-liberated concentration camp in World War II. Though he tried to maintain his composure as a General, you could see that he was absolutely mortified by the carnage around him.

Now contrast this to the Bush family, which has never shown an iota of compassion or sacrifice for anyone and, indeed, made their very fortunes funding the Nazi war machine that Ike helped us fight.

There hasn't been, IMHO, a Republican like Ike since Ike.
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:20 PM
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7. i agree
the last truly admirable republican president was eisenhower.
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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:51 PM
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13. Ford came close before the GOP was hijacked by the Reaganuts.
But, yeah, Eisenhower was a great man.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:22 PM
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8. Clark or Kerry should give this speech again
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 06:25 PM by jpgray
Only because they have the requisite war experience--the principles of the speech should be repeated by all our candidates.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:33 PM
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10. Reader's Digest
Over the Thanksgiving holidays, my in-laws had a bunch of old Reader's Digest they had saved from the late 50's through the mid 70's. It was rather fun to go through them all. I found one from February (?) 1964 written by Eisenhower which talked about how (and I paraphrase) "the tax and spend liberals will eventually cause this nation to go bankrupt". So, I have to say I have problems picking and choosing from Eisenhower things I like to hear and believe and things I don't.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:47 PM
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12. Don't forget ...
...(See sig)
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:17 PM
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14. Thats good too!
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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:29 PM
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15. I think the Republicans need to take their party back from the..
idealogues and wingnuts. They need to go back to pragmatic conservatism not ideological lowest-common-denominator politics.

but then again, they wouldn't have all those idiot evangelists to carry their elections
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:32 PM
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16. Yes, but, he never did anything about it and warned us too late.
Per Gore Vidal, the "national security state" began under Truman and has continued under every single President since. The military industrial complex has been a cancer on our national soul since the late forties.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:39 PM
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17. Ike started path to Viet Nam.
Many like to blame Kennedy but our involvement in Viet Nam began when Ike financed French.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:17 PM
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18. Ike seems to have had his faults...
but his farewell speech is probably the second best, next to Washington.

Reading it is somewhat frightening and it seems eerily prophetic.

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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 07:25 AM
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19. kick
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:43 AM
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20. I emailed this post to my local conservative talk show....
I got this reply...

> I believe the President says what most Americans want in the world. Peace. Yet Eisenhower understood that we had to have the military might we've developed because of the evil that exists in some men's hearts. He also understood as I know I do and you and others understand as well, that the Constitution and being a nation of free men is our greatest gift for ourselves and for others who desire it.
> But when other nations or groups would want to do our nation or our citizens harm they must understand that the might of our military will crush them without hesitation. If they will not respect us for the good we do in the world and would try to do us harm then they must fear what the outcome to their cause will be in the end.
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Elswick
> Asst. PD/Mid-Day Host
> NewsRadio 920
> KARN
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