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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:56 PM
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Who's gonna watch 60 Minutes?
Coming on in 3 minutes..................
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:58 PM
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1. Who's gonna MISS it???
I'm switching off the Green Bay-Philly game to watch this. Go Paul!
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:45 PM
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86. For anyone who did, here's a quicktime and mp3 version of it
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:58 PM
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2. me.......
can't wait.
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:58 PM
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3. i will..
begrudingly. They had to put it on during playoff football.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:59 PM
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well
ALL RIGHT!!!!
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:59 PM
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7. Was that an accident?
I'm sure it was.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:03 PM
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13. Actually
It's called good, tough, compelling television to counter-program the NFL playoff game. Don't look for a conspiracy there. :eyes:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:59 PM
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4. yep.........Popcorn?
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:04 PM by dweller
:)

dp

and i just thought to call my dad and advise him to watch...he already had a tape in, and is watching a game and will watch later...cool! dad.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:26 PM
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64. Yeah my Republican Dad is watching it - never misses 60 minutes
I'm sure this won't change his mind, though. His main concern is that it's better for his investment account and the stock market if the Pubs are in charge. He doesn't like Bush that well and Bush's social policies but he could care less who's in there as long as they look out for the corporations.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:59 PM
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5. I will be flipping back and forth
between 60 Min. and the Packer-Eagles game. Let me know if I miss anything good not in the news articles thus far.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:00 PM
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8. We need a west coaster
to keep us abreast of the NFC game.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 06:59 PM
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6. Present and accounted for.
Also my Mom out in Queens.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:00 PM
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9. Me, it's starting right now. n/t
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:00 PM
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10. West Coast here.
I can't see it til later. ;(
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:01 PM
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11. awwwwwwwwwwwwww
btw: they are also going to do a segment on outsourcing customer service jobs to India.

:hi:
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:10 PM
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25. Oh, well, at least I can read about it.
:hi:
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:02 PM
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12. Hey! The outsourcing piece looks good too!
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:04 PM by economic justice
Looks like a pretty good Tech-Jobs-To-India story...
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:04 PM
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14. kick
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:07 PM
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16. ONeil wasn't the only person who contributed to this book
and he's not going to get paid any of the royalties.

Rummy called him and asked (told) him not to cooperate with the book.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:06 PM
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15. Rummy warned O'Neill
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:07 PM by Cush
"not to do the book"

Author: This could be the moment when things are revealed. Talking about all the notes and files he had access to
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:07 PM
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17. dammit Cush
you again???? :D


:hi:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:09 PM
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19. hehehe
;-)
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:10 PM
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24. LISTENING
earnestly, and watching.
Yes my tape is running
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:09 PM
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18. O'Neill was a permanent part
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:10 PM by Cush
of the NSC as Head of the Treasurary???

How does that work?
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:51 PM
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78. I would like to know too
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:09 PM
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20. wow!!
look at all the documents ONeil supplied!!!!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:17 PM
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37. He's going to get accused of mishandling confidential information.
It's amazing that he got away with so many documents when this is the most secretive administration ever... finally some daylight is shining in!
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:52 PM
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80. Nope...
In a couple of months he will become so distraught over the damage his book does to Bush that he will hurl himself off the top of a building.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:41 PM
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84. I have the same feeling -
I hope the public, the schools, the churches and soccer Mons are finally getting the picture.

Cuz junior is gonna be one tough sucker to beat in 04.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:09 PM
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21. "Day one Iraq was on the table" of the administration...
we knew that, how come everybody else doesn't?
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:09 PM
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22. Wow....this is something.....
Talking about NSC meetings that discussed Iraq occupation January, 2001. O'Neill has pulled no punches. Gutsy guy.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:11 PM
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26. SHowing Maps!!!
OF IRaq and Middle East (Oil and stuff). Looks like the stuff Judicial Watch got
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:13 PM
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29. I want to see more of those 19,000 pages
of documents. That Iraq map was very damning.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:10 PM
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23. Green Bay-Philly tied 14-14
West Coaster, can't watch 60 Minutes for three more hours...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:12 PM
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27. Green Bay three and out, still tied
Punt, Eagles take over on the 22.
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Beearewhyain Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:17 PM
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40. Thanks for the game updates!!!
:yourock:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:12 PM
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28. Fucking Cheney
criminal extrodinaire..........
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:13 PM
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30. "reagan proved that deficits were ok"
:wtf:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:20 PM
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49. the only thing Reagan proved
is that idiots can be president
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:14 PM
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31. Dubya always shows his true colors
he was so jealous of ONeil after the Africa trip, that he started ridiculing him in public........
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:26 PM
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62. Just curious
wasn't that trip concerning AIDs funding for Africa?

didn't *moron include some huge amount of $$ for funding meds for African AIDS victims in SOU?

so, was this due in part to O'Neill's trip, advice, etc?

and they didn't listen to him then, and don't now, eh?

dp
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 09:45 PM
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85. Yes, and why 60 minutes didn't mention it was demeaning to O'Neill.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:14 PM
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32. O'Neill on nicknames (from Bush)
He see's it as a form of bullying
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:15 PM
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33. One thing is clear: Cheney calls the shots! <eom>
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:15 PM by economic justice
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:15 PM
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34. What a hatchet job!!!!
Notice the story is not "Bush is disengaged, planned invading Iraq from day one, and lied about WMD," but "This guy -- and what do we really know about him -- SAYS these things... he says, he says, he says... why is he saying these things?"
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:20 PM
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47. What a FUCKING hatchet job!
It's an outrage! "How DARE he attack the President! How DARE he!!!! Let's give the White House the last word, just to be Fair and Balanced!"

Jesus, that's what we're up against. The truth cannot get a fair hearing.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:29 PM
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65. My feedback to CBS:
I just finished watching the segment about Paul O'Neill's revelations. I wish to complain about the editorial position taken by 60 Minutes on the revelations.

Here we have a very credible, well-placed source revealing a very shocking picture of how the Bush White House operates. Instead of that being the story, it is presumed by 60 Minutes that he must be lying, and the story is "Who is this nut and why is he slandering the President?"

Can the truth get a fair hearing on your show? It didn't tonight.


---- leave your feedback.. go to CBS.com, click on feedback link at bottom of page
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:41 PM
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76. Just gave CBS my 2 cents ....
It ain't over ...
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PatrickS Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:15 PM
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35. Dick Cheney is really the president!
Case closed!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:15 PM
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36. Proves Bush is clueless
who does whatever he is told.

Bush: "didn't we already give to the rich?"

Advisors: "let's do it again!!!"

Rove pushed Bush into it.


And there are transcripts of this sutff?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:21 PM
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55. yes, but it at least shows that he raised a question
which is more than I would have expected.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:17 PM
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38. Didn't the tax cuts help?
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:17 PM by Cush
O'Neill: In a way, but without the 2nd round, we would have had 6% REAL growth. We would have been in a position to fix other things. We can't do that now.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:17 PM
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39. OMG!
"Why would I be attacked for telling the truth?" The poor naive man.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:19 PM
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44. His tongue was planted firmly in cheek. <eom>
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:19 PM by economic justice
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:21 PM
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52. yes
that was bitter sarcasm.

later he says "I'm old and I'm rich and there's nothing they can do to me"...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #39
58. coming from a republican
that sound utterly ridiculous
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #39
59. don't worry, Ellie, that was Academy Award quality acting.
He is framing how people should respond to the attacks. AND, hinting that journalists ought to be asking why that question would even be raised--what does that say about our administration? But will they get the hint?
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:17 PM
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41. That book wil be LOADED with ammunition going into the campaign! <eom>
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. that was GOOD!!!!!!!
I can't wait to buy this book!!!!!!!!!!
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:18 PM
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42. I'm seeing a problem here...it's all "Rove" and "Cheney"
or at least that's the way CBS is positioning it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. Perhaps so
but * coming right out and saying "didn't we just give tax cuts to the rich?" when all along the tax cuts were supposed to help the average Joe looks real bad on *'s part!!!

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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. Well.....kinda, but....
It's Bush is disengaged and Rove and Cheney run the show. Who does that indict?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #42
61. If Bush isn't in charge, why vote for him?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:19 PM
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45. Awesome show
O'Neil "Why would I be attacked for telling the truth?"

Boy is he in for a surprise
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #45
89. I don't think he was joking either.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:20 PM
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50. Outsourcing story coming on now
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #50
66. so far over 400K jobs have been outsourced to India and China
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:20 PM
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I thought it was good... n/t
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texas is the reason Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:20 PM
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51. whoo.. i need a cigarette after that...was it good for you too bushie?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #51
56. bwahahahhahahahaha
trying to catch my breath......... :D
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:21 PM
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53. The other point made was their hypocrisy....campaign promised no
nation building but put Iraq on the table day one.
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texas is the reason Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #53
63. i especially liked that part!
i smell a great campaign ad here "i do not want to engage in nation building"-right out of his own mouth! hypocrite!!!!!!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:21 PM
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54. It's times like this when I wish I owned a TV.
Paul O'Neil was a fantastic CEO of Alcoa and a great Treasury Secretary. Bush likes to get rid of anyone who doesn't march to his drum. I hope president Dean/Clark/whoever will reinstate him.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:22 PM
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57. there's a bit of video here
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #57
68. thanks Catwoman
nice cats too!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. Thanks
:hi:

wish I could sic em on *!!!

:evilgrin:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. wouldn't it be great if he would join up with Soros and/or endorse
our of our candidates?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #60
67. that would rock!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:33 PM
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70. I might have missed oneill, but this bit on foreign outsourcing burns my
bippy.

Even the US government in engaging in this! 19 states...

sick. Absofuckinglutely SICK!

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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:36 PM
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72. Lou Dobbs on this
This is Dobbs pet peave. He had the Nebraska governor on his show and raked him over hot coals for supporting sending **state tourism** calls to INDIA!
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:35 PM
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71. saw the O'neill segment
the biggest thing i got out of it was his saying his giving nicknames is a bully thing.
veddy interesting.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:37 PM
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73. I missed the first five minutes...
dang it!!!!!!!!

Any chance they might replay it or that the segment might go up on its website. Caught the second half but missed the beginning.... :(
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:39 PM
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75. there's a bit of video here
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:48 PM
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77. and here's the transcript
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #75
79. Thank you and thank you!
My hero to the rescue... again! :hi:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:37 PM
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74. whoa!!! My republican mother just called me and shes hoppin mad
wahoo
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PatrickS Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #74
82. Your mom was mad for what specific reason?
That they planned the invasion from the get go? Or how the tax cuts were made? Or all of it?
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #74
90. Victory is ours.
Outsourcing to India...ooo
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 07:55 PM
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81. It was excellent!
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 07:56 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
In spite of editing attempts to make O'Neill look questionable, his statements came through loudly and clearly. Considering the thousands of documents to back him up, no one can deny his credibility. Can't wait to get the book!
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 08:08 PM
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83. The book is great!
Bought it Friday and am nearly through reading it. It is as good, if not better than I even hoped.

Highly reccommend it! :bounce:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:05 PM
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88. Oh God, another book to read!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 10:00 PM
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87. Coming up on West Coast NOW 7:00 PM
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