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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:36 AM
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NYT Editorial: Making Votes Count: About those election results
Making votes count: About those election results

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/14/opinion/14sun1.html?o...

There have been a flood of reports, rumors and theories over the last 12 days about problems with the presidential election. The blogosphere, in particular, has been full of questions: Why did electronic voting machines in Ohio add nearly 4,000 phantom votes for President Bush, and why did machines in Florida mysteriously start to count backward? Why did the official vote totals for Ohio's largest county seem to suggest that there were more votes cast than registered voters? Why did election officials in yet another part of Ohio lock down the building where votes were being counted, turning away the press and public?

Defenders of the system have been quick to dismiss questions like these as the work of "conspiracy theorists," but that misses the point. Until our election system is improved - with better mechanics and greater transparency - we cannot expect voters to have full confidence in the announced results.

Electronic voting proved to be, as critics warned, a problem. There is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale. But this country should have elections in which the public has no reason to worry whether every vote was counted properly, and we're still not there. In Franklin County, Ohio, one precinct reported nearly 4,000 votes for President Bush, although the precinct had fewer than 800 voters. In Broward County, Florida election officials noticed that when the absentee ballots were being tabulated, the vote totals began to go down instead of up. Voters in several states reported that when they selected John Kerry, it turned into a vote for President Bush.

These problems were all detected and fixed, but there is no way of knowing how many other machine malfunctions did not come to light, since most machines do not have a reliable way of double-checking for errors. When a precinct mistakenly adds nearly 4,000 votes to a candidate's total, it is likely to be noticed, but smaller inaccuracies may not be. There is also no way to be sure that the nightmare scenario of electronic voting critics did not occur: votes surreptitiously shifted from one candidate to another inside the machines, by secret software.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:42 AM
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1. and .."Yes Virginia, that's how george bush got his mandate"..
:(
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:43 AM
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2. damnit... I get tired of being called a 'conspiracy theorist' for
stating the obvious. :crazy:

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:43 AM
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3. Widespread incompetence and/or disparate groups pursuing their own
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 06:44 AM by BlueEyedSon
self interest are not "conspiracies", yet they may have the same effect.

About "vote theft on a large scale" - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:57 AM
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4. Well, I guess that Tom Zeller, Jr. git just got zinged by his own paper.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:49 PM
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5. Locking as duplicate
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