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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:46 PM
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This is a Massacre, Not a War in Iraq
This is a massacre, not a war in Iraq. The U.S. bombing Samarra, Fallujah, Baghdad and other cities, killing hundreds of civilians and calling them terrorists is like the massacres of the Native Americans during America's push westward.
In this case, it has to do with America's push eastward.

What is also troubling is that no major media outlet, no major politician--none are callig this what it is, an immoral, unmitigated killing of hundreds of Iraqi civilians every week.

Those who are experts in Arabic have claimed for months that the man alleged to be Zarqawi is not really Zarqawi because he does not have the real Zarqawi's Jordanian accent. But, the American military, we are positive by now, has created this mythical Zarqawi to allow it to mercilessly attack Fallujah and punish its inhabitants because they withstood the American ground attack and chased the Americans out. Even today, the Fallujhans have said aloud to Al Jazeera and other outlets, that they will come out into the streets and fight the Americans--but our country, America, is immoral and cowardly, every day attacking Fallujah by F16, Apache and long range cannon fire. In the process, killing hundreds of civilians, but as in the Viet Nam war, saying, "It's just collateral damage and we are not responsible for that."

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It is time for Americans to speak up to stop this massacre.
We are killing Iraqis in the name of "Freedom" and "Democracy!"
How absurd, must we kill the Iraqis to "save them". This sounds almost like the old Salem Witch Trials, where they put people to death in order to save them. But it also smells of the aforementioned slaughter of the Native Americans by the jolly good American cavalry--ironically, it's the same cavalry that is repeating its deeds 200 years later, but this time against Iraqis. For shame.

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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:49 PM
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1. We'll give them freedom and democracy if we have to kill them all to do it
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:51 PM
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2. They hate us for our freedom to kill them
etc.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:54 PM
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3. Manifest Destiny,
21st Century Style.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 03:00 PM
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4. they always refer to these bombing sites as slums
this is our legacy no matter how you spin it.calling them slums reduces the value of the humans slaughtered.in vietnam we were told the pesants did not value human life as we do so it was ok to kill babies. this is babylon and we are the enemy. the global tests are important; from the outside it appears the usa feels it is ok to kill 30,000 non-whites for the 3,000 killed here. shameful and illogical. these 30,000 + produce 100,000 reasons to seek revenge.our "civilized" media consider it in bad taste to broadcast the realities of our carnage.
we are supposed to evolve
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 03:04 PM
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5. We have already failed the Global Test
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 03:05 PM by indigobusiness
That's why they mock it...for fear it will become a symbol for this failed administration.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:54 PM
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9. What you just said reminded me of a discussion of the Rwanda
massacre. I understand it was more a 'civil war'. But a VERY white person and I were discussing the slaughter and the absolute horror of what what happening in Rwanda and he said they are just 'barbaric' because they were using machetes to murder so many people. And my question to him was. Well, if they used F16 fighters to kill those people it would be less 'barbaric'? Do you mean, looking someone in the eyes before killing them is more 'barbaric' than shooting them down from the comfort of say a ship at sea using cruise missiles?

He did not like my attitude or my argument, but I think I made him understand, dead people are dead people, no matter how you murder them!..:grr:
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 07:40 AM
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6. And it is funny how the US can tell you how many innocents
are killed by car bombs but cannot say how many are killed by American bombs and missiles.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:55 AM
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8. They can say, but don't want to.
The lying game and truth evasion has become the foundation and is seeping into American culture everywhere you look.

Candor and honesty are quaint anomalies. Just watching tv commercials with all the victimization, the gotcha mentality, and liars and deceivers as winners...well, it says it all.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 10:47 AM
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7. Corrected link
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 10:48 AM by indigobusiness
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:39 PM
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10. This is one of the most powerful
articles I have read. I will never understand how people can ignore or justify what we are doing in these countries, never. In American, war is so sanitized and the government owned media refuses to air factual information so people go about their daily lives unaffected and clueless. My heart is breaking, this must stop!
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