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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 10:19 AM
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Rumsfeld and Bush Failed Us on Sept. 11

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-sheehy13aug13.story
COMMENTARY
Rumsfeld and Bush Failed Us on Sept. 11
By Gail Sheehy August 13, 2004

Donald Rumsfeld, one of the chief opponents of investing real power over purse and personnel in a new national intelligence chief, told the 9/11 commission that an intelligence czar would do the nation "a great disservice." It is fair to ask what kind of service Rumsfeld provided on the day the nation was under catastrophic attack.

"Two planes hitting the twin towers did not rise to the level of Rumsfeld's leaving his office and going to the War Room? How can that be?" asked Mindy Kleinberg, one of the widows known as the Jersey Girls, whose efforts helped create and guide the 9/11 commission. The fact that the final report failed to offer an explanation is one of the infuriating holes in an otherwise praiseworthy accounting.

Rumsfeld was missing in action that morning — "out of the loop" by his own admission. The lead military officer that day, Brig. Gen. Montague Winfield, told the commission that the Pentagon's command center had been essentially leaderless: "For 30 minutes we couldn't find" Rumsfeld.

For more than two hours after the Federal Aviation Administration became aware that the first plane had been violently overtaken by Middle Eastern men, the man whose job it was to order air cover over Washington did not show up in the Pentagon's command center. It took him almost two hours to "gain situational awareness," he told the commission. He didn't speak to the vice president until 10:39 a.m., according to the report. Since that was more than 30 minutes after the last hijacked plane crashed, it would seem to be an admission of dereliction of duty.

Rumsfeld's testimony before the commission last March was bizarre. Asked point-blank by Commissioner Jamie Gorelick what he had done to protect the nation — or even the Pentagon — during the "summer of threat" preceding the attacks, Rumsfeld replied simply that "it was a law enforcement issue." That obfuscation — was the FBI expected to be out on the Beltway with shoulder-launched missiles? — has been accepted at face value by the commission and media.

Rumsfeld is in charge of NORAD, which has the specific mission of protecting the United States and Canada by responding to any form of air attack. The official chain of command in the event of a hijacking calls for the president to empower the secretary of Defense to send up a military escort and, if necessary, give shoot-down orders.

Yet President Bush told the panel he spoke to Rumsfeld for the first time that morning shortly after 10 a.m. — 23 minutes after the Pentagon was hit and moments before the last plane went down. It was, says the report, "a brief call in which the subject of shoot-down authority was not discussed."<snip>

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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 10:27 AM
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1. Because.....
THEY WERE IN ON IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 04:55 PM
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2. papau
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 05:21 PM
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3. one large NIT
"The official chain of command in the event of a hijacking calls for the president to empower the secretary of Defense to send up a military escort and, if necessary, give shoot-down orders."

i thought it was the FAA->NORAD->ESCORT :wtf:

peace
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 08:22 PM
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5. Rummy changed that rule July 2001
hellish coinkidinky
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:08 PM
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7. well whaddaya know
how could i forget that since the media so throughly covered the topic... it was like OJ i tell ya :puke:

thanks :hi:

peace
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 08:27 PM
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6. Bu$h & co. changed the rules so it had to go thru them. Then --
Edited on Fri Aug-13-04 08:39 PM by Vitruvius
AFTER the first plane hit the WTC, Bu$h went into a classroom to hide out reading about a pet goat until it was too late to do anything to stop the rest of the attacks. And -- also as detailed in Sheehy's article -- Rummy sat in his office and stayed out of it -- again until it was too late to do anything.

Which is utterly compatible with LIHOP / MIHOP.

Until Bu$h-Rumsfeld, it was indeed FAA->NORAD->ESCORT as you said.

P.S. (upon edit) As Librechik points out, they changed the rule in July 2001; I wonder if that was when the Bu$h gang finalized their LIHOP/MIHOP plans.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 08:20 PM
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4. no registration necessary here
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 06:05 AM
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8. Rumsfailed has double thick teflon coat.
Rumsfailed Admitted violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public that when CIA Tentet requested that a prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act so Rumsfailed ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graib but the prisoner was not listed at that location on purpose. That is two violations of the Geneva Convention. Tenet and Rumsfailed violated the Geneva convention, thereby also The Constitution of the USA. Not one complaint or charge was made regarding Rumsfailed and Tenet, not even by any Dem in Congress. Rumsfaild's admission came after some in Congress called for his resignation and after Rep. Rangel issued Impeachment of Rumsfailed, which nothing has been heard of since then.

Does the US no longer follow the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA?

It appears so.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 06:07 AM
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9. Neo Fascists
Edited on Sat Aug-14-04 06:10 AM by Disturbed
Amerika has been taken over and no amount of crimes that the Neo Fascists commit will be addressed.

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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 12:49 PM
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10. Thanks.
:kick:
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 05:23 PM
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11. See also dupe thread at
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 11:38 PM
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12. Locking as duplicate....please continue discussion here
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