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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:11 PM
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"Occupy" Participants Beware: Agents Provocateur Like The One at Air Space Museum Are Threat
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Occupy-Organizers-Bewa...

It's become clear that besides pepper-spray wielding police there is another threat to the "Occupy" movement-- agents provocateur.

The people who planned the protest against killer drones at the National Air and Space museum wanted to make a statement and send a message. They did not want to scare families and children or shut down the museum.

That was not on the agenda of admitted agent provocateur Patrick Howley, assistant editor at the right wing publication American Spectator. He brags about running ahead of other protesters, into the main museum area, in the process shocking and startling tourists. Howley reports in his braggadocio filled American Spectator article,

(snip)

We can't verify his claim of forcing himself in and sprinting across the museum floor or even understand why, as an editor, he would do such a thing. What we do know is that his triumphant claim to be the "only one who made it through the doors," is patently inaccurate. So much for being the assistant editor of a news organization. He was absolutely not the only one who made it through the doors. Here's a photo by anti-war veteran, Bill Perry, of the three story banner several marchers displayed in the museum.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:24 PM
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1. I don't understand what he accomplished
All I see is an inside story from the protest. Thats not exactly disruptive.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:26 PM
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2. He was only one inside the museum. That shows he was at the forefront
of the events. He WAS the story, not just an impartial observer.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:33 PM
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3. How do we know he was even there? We know RW journalists have a
Edited on Sun Oct-09-11 01:33 PM by kestrel91316
long and distinguished track record of fabricating stories from whole cloth.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:41 PM
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6. It'll be interesting to hear from other protesters and eyewitnesses.
Howley seems naive more than anything.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 04:09 PM
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10. Look in that posting you will see photos placing him at the front of the action.
Kpete- Conservative Magazine Brags of its Agent Provacateur's Role in Provoking Police Action in D.C. Look in that posting you will see photos placing him at the front of the action.



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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:36 PM
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4. That's not true
There are pictures of other protesters (whom I know personally) inside the museum and unfurling banners. It is a lie for this twit to declare he's the only one who got inside.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:38 PM
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5. Good point. It would be interesting to hear from them.
Howley claims he was the only protester running inside the museum.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:41 PM
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7. I think many are still in jail
:)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 05:40 PM
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12. That implies Howley should be there too...
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Saving Hawaii Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 07:05 PM
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13. Help him get there
Somebody should send his confession that he posted online to the police. He already admitted that he deserved to get a double-dose of pepper spray in the face. He deserved the cuffs and mug shot as well.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 01:53 PM
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8. kr
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:42 PM
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9. Not a threat
but amusement. :)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 04:13 PM
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11. FBI plant banned by mosque because he was too extreme
The spying game wasn't all it was cracked up to be for Craig Monteilh, a convicted criminal recruited by the FBI to investigate the march of radical Islam into Southern California. His endless talk of violent "jihad" so alarmed worshippers at the local mosque, that they took out a restraining order against him.

Monteilh spent 15 months pretending to be Farouk al-Aziz, a French Syrian in search of his religious roots. He prayed five times a day at the Islamic Centre in Irvine, Orange County, wearing white robes with a camera hidden in one of its buttons, and carried a set of car keys that contained a secret listening device.

The enthusiastic attempt to catch local Muslims discussing terror campaigns backfired, however, when community leaders went to the police with fears that the suddenly devout young man, who got up to pray at 4am, had become a radical in their midst.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-pl...
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:13 AM
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19. Compare/contrast with the Oakland PD infiltrators. Surveillance NOT_EQUAL Incitement.
Seriously, no one should object to well-planned surveillance.

-- Eliminate drugs

-- Protect protesters from right wing predation

-- Get control of fire rusks and such as explosive hazards related to gasoline

-- The usual serve-and-protect reasons that we have police

Incitement... no-no-no.

The Bureau has been notorious for failed use of paid informants. Results oriented management, not quality oriented. They also see informants uniformly as lesser creatures -- not sufficiently committed to the details of personal appearance, for example -- and it shows. Some things they do quite well, but not this.

NYPD has to have people embedded at OWS NYC. Living in tents, mostly. Good.

Apart from the crazy Anthony Balogna, NYPD are pretty damn good at managing police problems.
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lg59kis Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 07:57 PM
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16. KR
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 09:42 PM
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17. Bring a camera, with or without video if you go to an OCW event.
That's how Tony Baloney got to be so famous in NYC. (The cop
who pepper-sprayed the young ladies who were behind a detention
barrier.)

It's the only thing I can think of, if something like that happened
and I was there, I know I'd wish I had a camera with me.

Maybe someone else has some other suggestions or ideas....

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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 07:22 PM
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18. The main provocateurs have been identified.
Check the occupywallst.org site for a full recounting. Also other Occupy sites.

Connections to and among other right wingers are established.
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