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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:15 PM
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Dick Scaife: Republicans wrong on Planned Parenthood
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/s_724838.html

The Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives -- urged on by conservatives opposed to abortion -- has voted to defund Planned Parenthood. On this issue, Republicans and conservatives are dead wrong.

My grandmother was a friend and a supporter of Margaret Sanger, one of America's earliest, most effective advocates of birth control.

I met Sanger several times before her death in 1966 and was impressed by her intellect and her commitment to many issues, not the least of which was enabling every woman to be "the absolute mistress of her own body," as she put it.

I didn't agree with everything the formidable Mrs. Sanger espoused. Yet I respected her dedication to making health-care and birth-control services available to all Americans, especially to those with low incomes, no insurance and no other recourse to medical services.



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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:20 PM
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1. Too late, Dick. You spent 30 years helping this army of clowns get into office.
PS - fuck you.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:21 PM
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2. It's unfortunate his mother wasn't a bigger supporter as well. n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:59 PM
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9. Yep. He can get on line behind Sandra Day O'Connor and the rest of the
"if only I had known then........" whiners. Too little...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too late.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:21 PM
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3. His message helps, but he helped put those pigs in office. nt
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:25 PM
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4. While I'm not an abortion advocate, I am pro-choice.
However, it seems to me that since abortions are really not that expensive ($350-$650 according to Planned Parenthood), people who want them should probably pay for them.

That way, pro-lifers wouldn't be able to complain about their tax dollars being utilized for something they view as murder.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:29 PM
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6. Republicans couldnt care one bit about abortion
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 06:30 PM by Avant Guardian
Republicans have no problem spending trillions on war. Human life means nothing to republicans. It is a wedge issue to them, a way to fool the uninformed into voting for republicans.
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:41 PM
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7. Exactly...so why not take away the wedge issue?
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:54 PM
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8. Your logic escapes me
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 06:59 PM by Avant Guardian
That is like saying, 'legalize all military weapons to take away the 'gun grabber' wedge issue'

Having said that, ruining planned parenthood would not make abortion go away as a wedge issue. All it would do is make women suffer.
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:00 PM
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10. Your analogy would be accurate if taxpayers were required to fund
gun purchases for low income people.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:20 PM
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14. Gun purchases for low income people...
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 08:32 PM by Avant Guardian
...is not a wedge issue
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:28 AM
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20. Precisely—no fedgov money = no wedge issue.
Do you think that the government should provide guns to women who fear they are going to be raped?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:00 PM
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:02 PM
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11. Of course, no problem for some poverty stricken single Mom who was raped, or
a 12 year old who was impregnated by her father....No doubt they will have a few hundred extra dollars laying around to pay for the abortion.

:sarcasm:
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:29 AM
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21. The types of situations you described constitute a tiny fraction of abortion cases.
Moreover, most pro lifers are tolerant of abortion in cases of rape and incest. As a result, that is probably something that could be negotiated.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:41 PM
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23. So that's why
They are fighting to redefine rape. That's why they want to make a law saying that abortion can not be performed even if the mothers life is in danger??

Just askin
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:18 PM
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12. To most people, that amount of money is something that they...
could pull together in an emergency. For a woman who lives in poverty, the decision might be between that money feeding her children and paying for the procedure. These are the women who will be really hurt if Planned Parenthood were to lose its funding. The longer it takes for a woman to pull together the money, the further along the pregnancy is when the procedure if finally performed. It's much safer for the pregnant woman to have the procedure as early as possible. It's also less emotionally traumatic for many women to have it performed as early as possible.

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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:27 AM
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19. I hear what you are saying and I sympathize with people who find themselves
in the predicaments you have described. However, it could be people will behave more responsibly when they learn that they will be financially responsible for mistakes, which are easy to avoid.

Unfortunately, the economic circumstances we face are going to require people to do as President Kennedy once suggested (ask not what your country can do for you).
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:47 PM
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25. What sacrifices are the rich making for the good of the country?
More tax cut handouts? Shouldn't they be financially responsible for their greedy 'mistakes' that collapsed the economy in 2008, or do they get a pass because they are rich?

Having said all that, the way to balance the budget is to get rid of the Bush tax cuts. Doing nothing but getting rid of the Bush tax cuts will balance the national budget by 2014, according to the CBO. Problem solved.

Apparently the CBO does not watch FOX news, because they agree 100%, as proven below.



Note: These charts show the deficit impact, in billions of dollars (chart 1) and as a percentage of GDP (chart 2), compared to Primary Balance (outlays excluding net interest payments on the debt) of the 4 primary options with regards to the Bush-era tax cuts. They are:
Bush-Era: Extend all Bush-era 2001-03 tax cuts

Obama: President Obama’s proposal – extend Bush-era tax cuts for those with incomes below $200k/ $250k

S-PAYGO: Statutory PAYGO’s (“S-PAYGO”) current policy tax exceptions – which accommodate President Obama’s proposals, but with only 2 years of AMT and estate tax relief

Tax Cuts Expire: Let all Bush-era tax cuts expire (CBO Baseline Data)

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Executive Order 13524 -- National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (Section 4), The White House, 18 February 2010 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-national-commission-fiscal-responsibility-and-reform).

The Budget and Economic Outlook: An Update, Congressional Budget Office, August 2010 (pg 2) (http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/117xx/doc11705/08-18-Update.pdf).

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, Co-Chairs’ Proposal (Slide 11) (http://www.fiscalcommission.gov/sites/fiscalcommission.gov/files/documents/CoChair_Draft.pdf).

Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111-148) and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act (Public Law 111-152).

Cost estimate of H.R. 4872, Reconciliation Act of 2010, Congressional Budget Office, 20 March 2010 (pg 12) (http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc11379/AmendReconProp.pdf).

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 (Public Law 103-66)

The Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2002-2011, Congressional Budget Office, January 2001 (pg 2) (http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/27xx/doc2727/entire-report.pdf).
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 10:43 PM
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26. and in response to all of
those inconvenient facts you provide the troll falls silent.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:26 PM
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5. Republicans are crackpots
...at best
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 07:55 PM
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13. Hey Dickie! You funded these assclowns, so deal with it!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:30 PM
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15. I was beyond shocked to read Scaife's editorial in support of PPH.
This man is usually such a RW nut case and his paper is nothing more than RW propaganda.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:35 PM
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16. Considering the absolute mendacity of the higher reaches of America's Aristocracy, particularly RW
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 08:36 PM by tom_paine
it is almost a 100% certain he's lying.

My guess would be he likes the idea of aborted non-white babies, all his puling about his love of Liberal Sanger.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 12:33 AM
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17. Repukes are wrong about everything. Period.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 01:20 AM
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18. For Some People I Wish...
that we could make abortion retroactive!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 05:26 PM
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24. I guess Dick decided to portray himself as a "centrist" for a day
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 07:11 PM
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27. Does this mean he will no longer
fund James O"Keefe? One of the main groups to fund O'Keefe is
Sarah Scaife Foundation
$6,625,000


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