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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:30 PM
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The Plot to Destroy Social Security
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 09:31 PM by NorthCarolina
OpEdNews: Michael Collins

(Washington, Dec 10) Bill Clinton showed up at the White House for an "impromptu" press conference to discuss the president's tax compromise with the Republicans. Clinton disclosed that "I make a lot of money now" and, as a result, he would benefit from the program. Then he endorsed the compromise calling it the best deal Obama could make. Clinton was particularly high on the Social Security payroll tax reduction. "According to all economic analysis, the single most effective tax cut you can do to support economic activity. This will actually create a fair number of jobs. I expect it to lower the unemployment rate and keep us going." (Image)

Across town, United States Senator Bernie Sanders was telling the simple truth that Obama and Clinton avoided. Reducing the Social Security payroll tax from 6.2% to 4.2% as a one year tax holiday presumes that the normal rates will be restored at the end of the one year period. Who would restore those rates? The very same party that passed the Bush ten year "temporary" income tax reductions. That same party, the Republicans, now claims that ending the Bush temporary tax cuts represents the greatest tax increase ever. Just as they forgot that those tax cuts were temporary, the new Republican majority will forget the payroll cuts were temporary. Senators Bob Corker (R-TN) and Mike Johanns (R-NE) agree that ending the tax holiday will be portrayed as a tax increase.

Social Security has a dagger at its heart. In 2011, we will have a president who won't even fight for Social Security when he has a majority in Congress and a House of Representatives with a veto proof majority that won't repeal any tax cut until Hell freezes over.

Link: http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Plot-to-Destroy-So...
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The payroll tax holiday is nothing more than a poison pill for Social Security. The fact that Obama and Clinton both support it as a great idea is because the DLC shares the same desire to curtail entitlements as do their GOP brethren. This should be a loud and clear warning shot across the bow for every Democrat (Conservative DLC New Dems excluded).
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:34 PM
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1. this is the truth. it's a very dangerous road our president wants us to jump off.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:44 PM
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4. True. If Obama won't fight for SS when he has a majority of Dems in Congress
what would possibly make ANYONE believe he would fight for it when the GOP controls the House? No other way to call it other than Obama appears part of the conservative movement to privatize, if not abolish, Social Security. It's also obvious why the Public Option was never on his "must have" list, and why he gave it up in pre-health care reform talks.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:49 PM
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5. My Senator Max Baucus called the PO a "Bargaining Chip" in March of 09, months before
the general public caught on to the fact it was long gone and blue shy from the start.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:42 PM
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2. K&R . . . . important post.


:kick:



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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:44 PM
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3. M. Gandhi said that
poverty is the worst form of violence.
The imposition of poverty by an elite onto a majority population is a crime against humanity.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:16 AM
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14. And how are we
going to stop these obscenely rich banker/thugs that will force us through torture,poverty and suffering to stop resisting them,exposing them,stop using our voices and will to resist. How will we be forced accept being destitute and will that destitution and hunger homelessness and dispair and living under the threat of the police and homeland security and outfits like xe,with weapons like the active denial microwave people cooker disbanding us at any protest, and some with kids to feed,how long until the american people become slaves for the feudal fascist state?
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"One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set.
http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/Non-Lethal-Weapons2...
http://www.mondovista.com/microwave.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/20032...
http://www.nldt.org/documents/crowd_control_report.pdf
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,322588,0...
http://www.sunshine-project.org/publications/bk/bk9en.h...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1...
I fear this is not a bad dream anymore.


http://www.cracked.com/article_16710_6-non-lethal-weapo...
http://www.beststungun.com/advanced-taser-m18l.html
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:46 PM
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16.  "One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources,
Aka: HAARP.

The funny thing is that they pretend they don't have these things already.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:09 PM
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6. Excellent by autorank, as usual. K & R nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:30 PM
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18. Hey glitch
I never thought I'd live to see the day when we had a 33% cut in employee contributions to Social Security. There's a 2010 law that allows for an employer share cut also. So, you think that employers are going to sit by and let only the employees get this cut.

Good news though. This is a terrific wrap up on the recently released Fed financial data. It's tremendous reporting and leaves the reader (at least this one) convinced we need a total re-boot of the financial system.

http://pubrecord.org/nation/8622/pentagon-papers-wall-s... /

:hi:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:23 PM
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20. Thanks for the link autorank.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 08:26 PM by glitch
:hi:
Although I think financial is not the only system that requires reboot. Preceded by a very serious virus/worm cleaning. Deworm and reboot before the system crashes and we permanently lose the data necessary for civilization itself! (sorry, I've been listening to ecoshock.org radio show all day while doing my chores and am feeling a bit pessimistic).

What a world, what a world.

edit: I agree about David DeGraw, very important article and writer. I've been following him on ampedstatus.com.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:25 PM
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7. single most effective tax cut you can do to support economic activity
But its LESS money than the lower income groups are already getting with the Make Work Pay program, so it will be LESS stimulative than the existing tax code.

Leave Social Security alone.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:46 PM
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8. indeed.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:51 PM
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9. The Republicans wanted this provision in the budget deal.
It should be approached with a great deal of skepticism.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:04 PM
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10. The excuse will be we can not raise taxes now when it expires. It will be
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 11:06 PM by RKP5637
exactly the same story. IMO the one year tax holiday for SS is pure BS. We'll see what we are saying a year from now, but my hunch is the tax holiday will be extended. Also, I guess I'm just missing it, but where are all of the jobs coming from, what industries, what services and why? Suddenly demand is going to soar? Suddenly there will be job availability and skill set matches?

What I see/hear are a bunch of ban-aids trying to prop up a failing system while keeping the wealthy, banksters and corps. happy. Frankly, they don't know what the F to do, but this will keep the monied happy and the rest will weep quietly.


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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:16 AM
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11. Or, we could turn it into a conspiracy to triple the SS wage cap as an offset.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 12:17 AM by Hoyt
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:38 AM
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12. Attention! Social Security is NOT an entitlement. In fact, it is an insurance program into which
workers pay one half of the premium and employers pay one half. Please don't fall into the right wing rhetoric of entitlement.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 05:18 AM
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15. Precisely
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:43 AM
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13. kr
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:26 PM
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17. Dangerous times
We're in for a rocky ride. Thanks for posting!
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 07:33 PM
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19. Great article.
Thanks for writing it. :patriot:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:04 PM
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21. Thanks. I'll keep it up!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:18 PM
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22.  goal of GOP, dismantle FDR's social safety net FOREVER
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 04:18 PM by katty
-they are getting closer to their ultimate victory and the DLC is helping them to do it as fast as they can. These f****** want to suck every penny out of the system, collapse infrastuctures and go back to being monied Lords of America ruling over millions of the educated(see Argentina)but jobless and severely stuggling and poor folk. This is their deeply sick idea and M.O. of the best way to run a country to only benefit THEMSELVES.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 08:33 PM
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23. It's all about them, we are nothing as far as they'[re concerned
And Bernie's great adventure ended Friday, a "show filibuster" - a feel good moment that ended with
a drop dead moment when the Senate approved the cloture resolution on the bill. Senators can put
a hold on nominations, just one can. Wonder if they can do the same for legislation?

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:24 AM
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24. Kick. (nt)
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