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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 11:16 PM
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Who made China's revolution?
Who made China's revolution?

As China celebrates six decades as a supposed "peoples' republic," Dennis Kosuth looks at how the struggle for workers' revolution in China was derailed.

October 13, 2009

SOON AFTER the founding of the People's Republic of China 60 years ago, the government began the practice of selecting "model workers." These individuals were held up as examples of hard work, modesty and patriotism. One early recipient, Shi Chuanxiang, received this honor because of the many decades he spent removing human waste from public bathrooms. The 1959 image of him shaking hands with then President Liu Shaoqi still appears in many primary school textbooks.

The ranks of the "model workers" this year include several bankers who had, "amidst the deepening and spreading financial crisis...overcame difficulties, strived to maintain growth, protect people's livelihoods, maintain stability and wholly promote socialist political and cultural construction as well as the grand project of constructing the party."

In 1999 there was one U.S.-dollar billionaire in China. By 2006 this elite club had slowly grown to 14, but only three years later this number has ballooned to about 130. Needless to say, these newly rich did not get there by decades of hard work akin to shoveling excrement, but by exploiting those who do.

According to Peh Shing Huei of Singapore's The Straits Times, "a 2006 study by several Chinese research institutions showed that almost 90 per cent of the country's top leaders in sectors encompassing finance, foreign trade, property development, construction and stock trading were princelings. And about 90 per cent of China's billionaires are the children of high-ranking officials."

How do these facts square with a country that calls itself socialist? What was the nature of the revolution in 1949 that put the Communist Party of China (CPC) into power and has led the country to where it is today?

http://socialistworker.org/2009/10/13/who-made-chinas-revolution
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:07 AM
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1. Organised crime. That's who. The corruption of Chiang Kai Shek, who'd belonged to its ranks in his
younger days, sickened even the American Government (I hasten to add, "of that day").

They had supplied him with a large amount of money to finance his army, but he siphoned of most of it for his personal use. In the end he had to chain up his own literally starving soldiers at night, to prevent their escaping to join the other side.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:37 AM
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2. Chiang kai shek was in Taiwan - the reason why all that blew into a problem
He was controlled and owned by the Dongs.
The main problem was that the US government didnt want to back Mao - things would have turned out very differently if we had.

anyway, I dont disagree with the mafia angle, by CkS was NOT mainland.

I took chinese history, and my instructor did her doctorate on this particular subject (specifically the mission the us sent to evaluate the mao forces. and we know how that ended. it wasnt because they recommended against mao, it's because of the dumb texan (her words, and she was a yellow rose!!!) that was our liaison to china was soo bought off, and corrupt, he stopped their correspondences with his own.

anyway just a bit of history.
very interesting, but very sad.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:01 PM
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5. Take the time to read Truman's autobiography, he has a few choice words about Chiang
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 05:01 PM by IndianaGreen
particularly when Chiang, Madame Chiang, and their gender bending daughter (Truman made a point of her being dressed in men's clothes--it was the 1940s). Truman said the Chiangs helped themselves to White House china and other items.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:19 PM
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7. What has CHiang Kai Shek's NOT being mainland got to do with anything.
Let's not get into your eminent accreditations in the history of China or those of your lecturer, and stick to information on the subject matter.

What do you mean "recommended against Mao"? Did you think that the US would have contemplated siding with Mao under any circumstances at that time? If it was an assessment, it would have been of the fighting capabilities of Mao's troops. And if your liaison with the Chinese authorities was utterly corrupt, he could hardly have been more corrupt than CKS. I repeat, even the American government, which had funded CKS, was sickened by the depth of his corruption. So, I'm at a loss to understand the thrust of your post.

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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 07:02 AM
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8. It has to do with WHY there exists a Taiwan/PRC split
CKS was the boss of China, however when the "people's revolutions" rolled around in full strength, CKS knew he was dead if he didn't run.
So he ran to Taiwan.
From there, the US recognized him as the"rightful ruler of China" and that's how the ROC and PRC pissing match started.
It's our fault that divide and all the politics around it exist.

So back to the original point, CKS was horribly corrupt, and I dont imagine that Taiwan is much better now than it was then, but the chinese mafia, in theory, has no legitimate hold on the people's government.

Communist governments always seem to have their own, special, kind of corruption going on.
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:57 AM
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3. Makes sense...
The right in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Macao is pro-Beijing and the left is anti-Beijing.

These Chicon fucks helped Pinochet kill Chilean leftists.
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pangaia Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:35 PM
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4. Soong Dynasty
Perhaps check out "The Soong Dynasty" by Sterling Seagrave, among other titles. It's not perfect, but does give a fairly accurate, broad representation of the period from an unusual perspective and is a fascinating read, at least in my opinion.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:12 PM
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6. Never trust a commie
Makhno and his fellow Ukraina peasant anarchists did, Trotsky betrayed and slaughtered them - after they had driven the white generals away. Spanish peasant anarchists did and Stalin betrayed them.

But we do trust. We have no choice but to trust our fellow human beings, that they also have a soul hidden deep inside the kernel of commie/capitalist statism and all other forms of general selfdistrust.
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