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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:46 AM
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Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m

The man once regarded as the world's most powerful banker has bluntly declared that the Iraq war was 'largely' about oil.

Appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1987 and retired last year after serving four presidents, Alan Greenspan has been the leading Republican economist for a generation and his utterings instantly moved world markets.

In his long-awaited memoir - out tomorrow in the US - Greenspan, 81, who served as chairman of the US Federal Reserve for almost two decades, writes: 'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'

In The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World, he is also crystal clear on his opinion of his last two bosses, harshly criticising George W Bush for 'abandoning fiscal constraint' and praising Bill Clinton's anti-deficit policies during the Nineties as 'an act of political courage'. He also speaks of Clinton's sharp and 'curious' mind, and 'old-fashioned' caution about the dangers of debt.

Greenspan's damning comments about the war come as a survey of Iraqis, which was released last week, claims that up to 1.2 million people may have died because of the conflict in Iraq - lending weight to a 2006 survey in the Lancet that reported similarly high levels.

More than one million deaths were already being suggested by anti-war campaigners, but such high counts have consistently been rejected by US and UK officials. The estimates, extrapolated from a sample of 1,461 adults around the country, were collected by a British polling agency, ORB, which asked a random selection of Iraqis how many people living in their household had died as a result of the violence rather than from natural causes.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:49 AM
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1. Well, now that it's too late...
And we are caught in this fucking quagmire...

Now, he says what we knew from the beginning...

We, meaning us DU Democrats...

If more people had known, this awful, illegal, immoral, vastly wasteful war might not have happened.

Goddamn.

Oil.

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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:19 PM
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9. wow, Peg. haven't seen you this mad in a while.
considering the circumstances, though, it certainly calls for it.

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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:47 AM
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15. My dear California Peggy...
There are times I feel as if we are like the prophetess Cassandra...
a woman who was gifted with telling the truth, but no one believed her.

Sadly... after all this time,
even IF we were to jump up and down, screaming and flailing about
(like teabaggers) no one would listen, nor believe.

"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it." Santayana.

Welcome aboard the merry-go-round of politics.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:15 AM
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16. what the lying repugs and their enablers did to innocent people all over
the world is a horrible crime that is beyond words.

the media for the most part was complacent and supporters of the crimes, repug voters and singers like Toby Keith were also enablers.

These people will try to deny it, find others to blame. But like the nazis and their monstrous acts, these will not be forgotton.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:52 AM
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2. Now that he's made his billions of course he admits the truth
POS should go to jail not only for what he did to the economy but for collusion with Bushco.

I hope he's haunted by those million deaths for all eternity.
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:00 PM
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14. nope
he's politically inconvenienced and about to make money from a book. Not haunted at all.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:55 AM
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3. it was about control of the oil.
they wanted to put american troops and control on top of it.

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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:41 PM
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4. Well ....... millions of us all around the world knew this before it
started. It's really too bad these people hadn't the cajones to speak up when doing so might have actually accomplished something.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:42 PM
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5. Everything is about oil -- we knew that all along, but this needs to be OUT THERE
for those who don't know and believed the lies.

And though Greenspan was complicit, he didn't have to come out and publicly state this, so he deserves a nod for that.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:45 PM
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6. What is this, rotating Republican week so we forget Rove et. al.?
This week Rove, Newt, .. are quiet, then in weeks to come they'll come out and kill single-payer.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:01 PM
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7. That puts Bush/Cheney in great company.
While not in the same league of Mass Murderers as Stalin or Hitler, this puts Bush/Cheney squarely in the same neighborhood as Pol Pot.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 02:07 PM
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8. Are they counting the 1/2 Million Iraqi children....
...that died as a result of the sanctions enforced by the Clinton Administration?

How about Iraqi deaths from Desert Storm 1 under Poppy?
.
.
.
Man, that all adds up to a big, ugly pile of DEATH, paid for by the US Taxpayer.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:16 PM
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10. Now tell us the sabre-rattling at Iran isn't about oil
(and natural gas).
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:03 PM
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11. Another guy, like Kissinger and so many others, that needs a war crimes trial real bad. nt
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:29 PM
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12. Thank you Captain Obvious
Now tell us how you manipulated Fed rates to help keep Repulicans in power.

:eyes:
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:46 PM
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13. He could also fess up
to how come he told John McCain that his friend Charles Keating was just such a standup guy and it would be swell if they'd give him the go ahead for his little savings and loan plan. . .
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:28 AM
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17. 1.2 million deaths....
... and all approved and cheered-on by so-called "pro-lifers."

:puke:





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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 12:08 PM
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18. 'I am saddened
that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:08 PM
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19. I am just stunned!
I thought you went in to free them and didn't get the gratitude you deserved from the people of Iraq. Is it still about oil? Did you get it yet or are you going to have to hang in there for a bit longer?
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