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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:06 PM
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Why did George W. Bush pick Porter Goss for DCI?
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 03:20 PM by formercia
http://www.madcowprod.com/mc6512004.html

Was Bush Spy Pick on Agency Hit Team?
"Look out kid, They keep it all hid.
Bob Dylan Subterranean Homesick Blues


Aug 24 2004-Venice,FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker

THE MAN PICKED by President George W Bush to head Americas Central Intelligence Agency is even more of an intelligence insider than has so far been revealed...

Although membership in a secret society would seem to compromise a bit anyone being considered to lead an Agency which is itself a secret society, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Republican Porter J Goss of Sanibel Island Florida is a member of the secret society Book & Snake at Yale.

President George W Bush's nominee to head the nation's flagship intelligence agency also appears to be visible in a photograph taken in 1963 in a Mexico City nightclub of members of the CIAs secret assassination squad known as Operation Forty."

--snip--
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:20 PM
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1. How does "Book & Snake" differ from "Skull & Bones"
If you know one secret society, you know them all? :shrug:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:16 PM
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15. It's those old school ties-look at who's in this picture with Goss
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:25 AM
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17. Some other notable members of Book and Snake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_and_Snake

Notable members include:

* Bob Woodward, journalist, The Washington Post
* Porter J. Goss, former Director of Central Intelligence/Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
* Les Aspin, former Secretary of Defense
* John Edward Drick, Former President and Chairman of the Board, First National Bank of Chicago
* Nicholas Brady, former Secretary of the Treasury
* Bill Nelson, U.S. Senator from Florida
* Ogden Reid, former Congressman and owner of New York Herald Tribune
* Henry Ford II, automotive executive, descendant of company founder
* Henry Louis Gates Jr, literary critic
* Margaret Warner, news anchor, journalist, columnist
* Harry Gale Nye, Jr., world champion sailor in the International Star Class
* Dr. Kyle Pruett author and child psychiatry expert
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:44 AM
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18. I always thought there was something missing about Margaret Warner's interviewing style,
just pulling up short when the discussion dictated obvious uncomfortable questions or changing the subject in order to divert the flow when liberals or progressives were building momentum toward a critical point, giving more time to conservative guests; many times first and last questions.

Thanks for the thread, formercia.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:59 AM
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19. Controlling the message
I knew someone would pick up on that.

I fear we are just scratching the surface.


:hi:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 11:24 AM
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20. Bill Nelson's connection to 'The Family.'
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 07:51 AM
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23. Negroponte, fellow snake
http://ww4report.com/negropontedeathsquad

JOHN NEGROPONTE & THE DEATH-SQUAD CONNECTION

Bush Nominates Terrorist for National Intelligence Director

by Frank Morales

"He will be a key figure in US counter-terror operations." BBC News, Feb. 17, 2005

"I think he could have stopped all these assassinations and torture... We're against this nomination. If he didn't see human rights violations in Honduras, it's possible he won't see human rights violations anywhere in the world." Leo Valladares Lanza, former head, Honduran Human Rights Commission, quoted in New York Times, March 29, 2005

On February 17, 2005, President George W. Bush nominated John Negroponte, 65, to be the United States' first National Intelligence Director." According to various published reports, Negroponte will be the president's "primary briefer" in the area of global and domestic intelligence and counter-terror operations, coordinating and overseeing the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), National Security Agency (NSA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and other agencies.

His upcoming Senate confirmation seems assured, and that is a scary prospect. Why? Because Negroponte has a long and bloody criminal history, dating back to the early 1960s, of overseeing the training and arming of death squads, schooled in the techniques of torture, "forced interrogation," assassination and, as we shall see, even genocide. He has been described as an "old-fashioned imperialist," active for nearly four decades in Vietnam, Central America, the Philippines, Mexico and most recently Iraq. He got his start back in the days of the CIA's Phoenix program, which assassinated some 40,000 Vietnamese "subversives."

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:09 AM
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16. Mirror images...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:30 PM
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2. More importantly why was Goss picked for House Ethics office AFTER hookergate!

Yeah, we should be wondering the full scope of Goss's involvement in this mess too. But it seems like he's at the center of many controversies, including Hookergate, and even in the problems with AIPAC spies, domestic spying, and what became recently known about what Jane Harman was doing...

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/goss-among-former-m...

But, jeesh Nancy Pelosi, why would you and Boehner sign your names to having Goss co-chair of the House Ethics review board, AFTER all of the messes he had earlier. Weren't there so many other people that could have filled the bill beside him that you could agree on?

Something really stinks about that committee appointment and we should be able to hear the details on that if this investigation looks at Goss!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:32 PM
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:25 AM
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7. Who were the other members?
"it fails to dwell on the more important question: what were Rep. Porter Goss and Senator Bob Graham and other members of the Senate and House intelligence committees doing together with the alleged 9/11 "money-man" at breakfast on the morning of 9/11. In other words, the Washington Post report does not go one inch further in begging the real question"

Inquiring minds want to know.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 03:38 PM
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9. My post was deleted
Edited on Sat Jul-18-09 03:47 PM by chill_wind
which seems a bit ridiculous, but here are corroborating links from the History Commons:

on September 11, 2001, ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed is at a breakfast meeting at the Capitol with the chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Senator Bob Graham (D) and Representative Porter Goss (R), a 10-year veteran of the CIAs clandestine operations wing. Also present at the meeting are Senator Jon Kyl (R) and the Pakistani ambassador to the US, Maleeha Lodhi, as well as other officials and aides. (Goss, Kyl, and Graham had just met with Pakistani President Pervez Mushrraf in Pakistan two weeks earlier (see August 28-30, 2001)). (Salon, 9/14/2001; Washington Post, 5/18/2002) Graham and Goss will later co-head the joint House-Senate investigation into the 9/11 attacks, which will focus on Saudi government involvement in the 9/11 attacks, but will say almost nothing about possible Pakistani government connections to al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks (see August 1-3, 2003 and December 11, 2002). (Washington Post, 7/11/2002)

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101m...

(much more there on the 911 timeline.)

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:45 PM
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10. "other officials and aides"
shall remain nameless? I suspect there may be other familiar names .
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:34 PM
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4. K&R
:kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:35 PM
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5. Remember this highly informative thread, formercia?
"Porter Goss, CIA Director 2004-2006, claims ignorance of tapes' destruction. Right-oh." (started by seafan 12-7-07)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 06:37 AM
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6. Junior needed someone he could trust and get the 'job' done.
Someone who knew how to 'get things done.'
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:31 AM
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8. I luv Daniel Hopsicker . But every time I post him here he gets thrown into the dungeon.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:45 PM
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24. A lot about what he writes turned out to be true.
Someone was trying to kill the messenger.

I compared his writing about events that I was familiar with and my recollections match.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:51 PM
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11. Kick. nt
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 10:21 AM
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27. Thank You. n/t
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 05:02 PM
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12. kick.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 07:16 PM
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13. interesting...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:12 AM
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14. Yes it is.
:hi:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:11 AM
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21. Kick.
I'm going to keep this kicked until Congress gets off their dead asses and does something.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:00 PM
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22. And another kick. n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:06 AM
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25. I seldom get online anymore-but I recognize what stories are important--kick...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:34 PM
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26. Thank You
Every little bit helps. :hi:
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