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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:50 PM
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Sanford Should Apologize to Bill Clinton and Gay Couples (Cenk @ DailyKos)

By Cenk Uygur

Mark Sanford voted to impeach Bill Clinton for having an affair and lying about it while in office. , ""I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign)." In explaining why he voted to impeach the president, he said, "I think what he did in this matter was reprehensible... I feel very comfortable with my vote." He added that Clinton lacked after his affair.

Now, a lot of conservatives will fall back on the old refrain of "But, but, but, Clinton was under oath!" Yeah, who put him there? Who would pass the test of being perfectly honest if they were put under oath about all of the details of their sex lives? I certainly wouldn't. No way I'd tell the whole truth to some pervert like Ken Starr who would later write a salacious, near pornographic, account about it - and seemed to relish every minute of it. That's my business and not his business, and he can find something else to jerk off to.

But none of that matters, because Gov. Sanford agrees with me. He thinks lying to your wife is just as important as lying under oath. This is about the affair of fellow Republican Bob Livingston:

"I'm sure there will be a lot of legalistic explanations pointing out the president lied under oath, situation was not under oath. But the bottom line is, he still lied. He lied under a different oath and that is the oath to his wife. So it has got to be taken very seriously."


Game, set and match.

This guy built his career on questioning other people's morals. He went after Democrats like Bill Clinton. He went after fellow Republicans like Bob Livingston and Larry Craig. He was on his moral high horse, all along. Listen to what he said about lying about an affair:

"The issue of lying is probably the biggest harm, if you will, to the system of Democratic government, representative government, because it undermines trust. And if you undermine trust in our system, you undermine everything."


So, what about that Appalachian Trail? What about going alone to Argentina? In his own words, and many others over the last year (at least), Sanford has undermined everything. So, what does he do now that he has fallen off his high horse - he begs for forgiveness and refuses to resign.

Well, if you're going to do that, do it right. and understands the mistakes he made in the past. The mistake wasn't just the affair. It was also in judging others. Not just politicians like Bill Clinton. But also, whole groups of people, like gay Americans. He argued they undermine the institution of marriage while he was busy undermining his own marriage. His wife built his career for him (), she built his family for him and he was ready to leave all that behind for an . And gay people undermine marriage?...

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:51 PM
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1. First things first
resign.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:47 AM
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9. I'll take both.
:)
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:59 PM
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2. I don't have it at my finger tips, but the list of Clinton's attackers who also cheated was long
Some of them were in the midst of affairs at the very time they were calling for Bill's ouster.

If only hypocrisy was an impeachable offense!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 01:24 PM
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10. I think we need to call the Chicken Inspecter in more often to examine the GOP'ers . . . !!!!
Taking their idiotic word for anything is insane --

and their inability to cope with their own sins is gargantuan.

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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 02:56 PM
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11. Just like those mostly loudly decrying the gays (Haggard, Craig)
because they think it covers up any suspicions anyone would have about their own lives - the wives of the husbands "defending marriage" the loudest should hire investigators - I'd bet a year's worth of their alimony they'll find the hypocrite is an adulterer
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 06:29 PM
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14. "The louder he spoke of his Honor, the faster we counted our spoons"
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:41 AM
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18. Gingrich is at the top of that list.
And yes, it's a long list.
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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:01 PM
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3. K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:02 PM
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4. K&R
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:07 PM
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5. K&R n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:28 PM
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6. I was thinking the same thing.
Though Sanford should still resign for abandoning his post.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 10:31 PM
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8. Me too & he should fall on his sword after this
Edited on Thu Jun-25-09 10:32 PM by Turborama

:kick: & R




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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:55 PM
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7. k & r n/t
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 05:37 PM
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12. K & R!!!
:thumbsup:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 04:20 AM
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13. I sure agree! This guy has proven himself to be such a hypocrite...
Same with Ensign. Why is it that the most judgmental right-wingers are the ones who commit the worst transgressions? :banghead:
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Tess I Guess Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:03 PM
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15. Family values hypocrites

Their real campaign slogan is "Vote for me and I'll do something about guys like me!"
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Tess I Guess Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:09 PM
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16. Self righteous

People aren't wrong in having ideals and high standards. But the folks on the right lose people with their
harshness when people fail. They want to see people beat down until their self righteousness is satisfied.

But I bet this guy Sanford will be allowed in church. Why do rightwingers think Sanford should have to leave his office, but not his faith? Do they really think a statehouse is holier ground than a church LOL!
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:17 PM
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17. he should be forced out of office, like Spitzer
every time a Right pol gets away scot-free & a Dem loses his/her job is another precendent locking the Right into power & the Left OUT.
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