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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 06:55 PM
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Obama risks wrath of his liberal base
Obama risks wrath of his liberal base

Decision to revive military trials for terror suspects welcomed by Republicans – and lambasted by human rights activists

By David Usborne, US editor

Saturday, 16 May 2009


(Obama's) statement yesterday reflected that balance: "This is the best way to protect our country, while upholding our deeply held values," he said. And while acknowledging that he had "objected strongly" to the Bush approach, he insisted that military tribunals "are appropriate for trying enemies who violate the laws of war".

There was support for the shift from a key moderate Republican, Senator Lindsey Graham. "I continue to believe it is in our own national security interests to separate ourselves from the past problems of Guantanamo," he said, while adding: "I agree with the President and our military commanders that now is the time to start over and strengthen our detention policies. I applaud the President's actions today." But liberals will point unhappily to an emerging pattern of Mr Obama retreating from his initial instinct to throw Bush anti-terror policies overboard.

He performed a similarly perilous policy pirouette earlier this week when he sought to block attempts to release a new batch of photographs of prisoner abuse by members of the US military, saying that to do so would endanger US soldiers serving abroad. Previously, the White House had indicated that it would not intervene after a court ordered the release of the photographs.

It will hardly help him, however, that at least one of the photographs in question has now leaked. The SBS television channel in Australia revealed that in the wake of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal two years ago, it had acquired other photographs that have not yet been widely seen.

The Obama White House is increasingly finding itself and its allies embroiled in controversies to do with the treatment of prisoners from George Bush's War on Terror. On Thursday, Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Speaker of the House, took steps to defend herself against allegations that she knew for years that the US was waterboarding detainees, saying the CIA had lied to her about it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-risks-wrath-of-his-liberal-base-1685722.html
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 07:01 PM
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1. Indiana Green,
Are you part of Obama's liberal base?

If I recall correctly, you are a Green, not a Democrat.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:18 PM
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5. Your recollection is fatally flawed
I suggest you dig up all of my posts during the primaries and the election campaign.

Any comments about the The Independent's article?
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 08:38 PM
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2. "enemies who violate the laws of war"??
This is what bothers me. Why not just label them all "terrorists", like any common Repuke would? How do we know that these people violated any law, let alone if they are "enemies"? Isn't that what due process is for? :wtf:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:32 PM
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3. Lots of b.s. around this weekend, eh?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 01:49 AM
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6. tribunals certainly count as B.S., yes
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 06:39 AM
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7. 'Wrath' of liberal base?
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:48 PM
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4. These tribunals are a bad idea. The New York Times editorial is spot on.
(Even though the editorial is in a different thread.) Highly recommended reading.
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