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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:30 PM
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India is a place where George W. Bush will be missed
Monday, November 24, 2008
Pramit Pal Chaudhuri


India is among the few dozen countries, largely clustered in Asia and Africa, where sentiment in favor of the United States actually rose during the administration of George W. Bush. Nonetheless, more Indians favored the election of Barack Obama than they did John McCain. What explains this seeming contradiction?

At the heart of the Bush administration's success with India was a belief that India was a nation whose rise was beneficial to US interests. This led Bush to seek to adjust the international order to India's benefit, most notably by negotiating an exemption from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty for India. The net result was a closer Indo-US relationship and a positive view of Bush that overrode unpopular actions such as invading Iraq.

Obama's election - the success of a member of a non-white minority in the world's oldest democratic polity - has seized the imagination of many Indians. He is exhorted in the media and among the intellectual classes. Among the most fervent supporters of Obama in the US have been the nearly 3 million-strong Indian-American community. "You can't swing a dead cat in the Obama camp without hitting an Indian-American," said an Obama adviser.

In the run up to the election, many Indians could not believe that an African-American would ever be chosen to reside in the White House. His election inevitably enhanced the standing of the US as a land of genuine opportunity, a nation whose multicultural credentials were as great if not better than polyglot and poly-ethnic India.

The greatest skepticism about an Obama presidency lies among the Indian strategic elite, who are focused on promoting India's economic and political interests in the wider world. They found an ally in that cause in Bush. Whatever Obama's ethnic credentials, India's government has detected in his statements reason to believe that he will be less supportive than Bush.

First, India is wary that any Democratic administration will include the same proponents of nuclear non-proliferation who opposed Bush's exemption for India. Obama has publicly said he intends to push for a comprehensive test ban treaty, a treaty that India opposes because it feels its own nuclear deterrent remains incomplete.

Second, Obama has attacked the outsourcing of service jobs to places like India and the offshoring of manufacturing jobs to Asia as a whole. His advisers also indicate that they will seek to incorporate social provisions, like labor standards, into future international trade negotiations. Though candidates tend to roll back from protectionist stances once they come to power, the Democrats' control of both houses of Congress may not give Obama that leeway.

Third, a Democratic administration has said it will put climate change at the forefront of its global policy concerns. If the focus is about mitigating carbon production through technological means, there will be few concerns. However, if the policy slips into more coercive measures such as carbon tariffs and the like, the result is likely to convert climate change into an energy security struggle. It will also pit the big carbon emitters of the future, like India and China, against present polluters like the US and Europe.


More: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=97920
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:34 PM
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1. "What explains this seeming contradiction?" Bullshit. There's not even the faintest whiff of...
Edited on Sun Nov-23-08 05:35 PM by BlooInBloo
contradiction in that.

EDIT: And so there's no question to be answered in the first place, and the idiot author has successfully wasted 30 seconds of my time by leading me into a quest to rid the world of evil windmills.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:42 PM
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2. Yikes!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:44 PM
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3. Imagine calling tech support and hearing Bush's voice on the other end.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 06:53 PM
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9. That's terrifying and hilarious at the same time.
:)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:45 PM
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4. He gave them nukes and we were promised mangoes that we never got.
He gave them our jobs. No wonder they luvs them some Georgie.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 06:02 PM
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6. damn straight
how dare those people in India have jobs.
:sarcasm:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 06:10 PM
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7. They should have jobs but not our jobs.
Don't Indians have their own companies to hire people? I'm not blaming them but our government for not protecting our industry from outsourcing.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 06:45 PM
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8. Doesn't India have Corporations?
Yep, I thought so. The people of India would be up in arms if they were jobless and Indian Corporations were sending the jobs elsewhere now, wouldn't they?

Citizens of any sane country would be.

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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 08:29 AM
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11. A few
but its part of the process of development. The more experience they get, the more likely it is that more corporations will spring up.

Tata Motors for instance.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:25 AM
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12. India has many tech companies.....
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 10:26 AM by OhioChick
Infosys, TATA, Wipro, etc.....Do a Google search.

Again...The people of India would be up in arms if they were jobless and Indian Corporations were sending the jobs elsewhere now, wouldn't they?
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:44 AM
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14. What is upsetting here...
Other countries, (just had a friends employers company get bought out by an India Corporation), can come to the U.S.A. and buy up our businesses...... HOWEVER.... we as U.S.A. citizens can not go and buy businesses in India...... This must STOP... we are just selling ourselves away to the world..
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:46 AM
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15. You're right.
I have been reading that Indian companies are on a spending spree here. Not good. Must be fair.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 10:39 PM
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16. well
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:52 PM
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5. They should be concerned, Obama will clean up the Bush mess,
it will take some time, but he can do it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:08 PM
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10. the folk in India I have to deal with and bush have a lot in common
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 10:27 AM
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13. Apparently so....
According to the article, he'll be missed there.
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