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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:40 PM
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There is nothing humane about Guantanamo Bay
By David Rose
THE OBSERVER , London
Wednesday, Feb 25, 2004,Page 9

For the four British prisoners still being held at Camp Delta, life could hardly be more arduous. As a reporter, I have visited many maximum security prisons in Britain and the US; in Georgia and Louisiana, I have talked to inmates in the worst place of all -- death row.

Some journalists have suggested that, compared with the regular American correction system, Guantanamo Bay is nothing out of the ordinary. After four days there last autumn, my impression is that, both physically and psychologically, conditions are significantly worse.

The five who are to be repatriated, like others no longer judged a security risk, are spending their last weeks at Guantanamo in the relatively humane surroundings of "Camp Four," where they are allowed to associate freely, wash when they feel dirty and play football or volleyball. But the fact that the Pentagon is refusing to release Moazzem Begg, Feroz Abbasi, Martin Mubanga and Richard Belmar means they are still being held in the main part of the camp, which houses all but 100 of the 660 detainees.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2004/02/2...
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:42 PM
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1. Nor Was There Anything Humane . . .
about the monster b*st*rds who flew those planes into the World Trade Center, killing about 3,000 Americans.

Cry me a river. Sorry, mate. I shed no tears for those monsters.
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 12:01 AM
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2. Oh? And so for sure these people being held at................
Guantanamo without being charged, or tried, and no legal counsel, were in fact part of the group responsible for 9/11??????????? How do you know these people are guilty??????? If they are not part of the group on 9/11, why are they being held as prinsoners??? Since you seem to know all.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 12:06 AM
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3. I Didn't Say They Were "Guilty"
What I said was I wasn't sympathetic. They deserve lawyers, clearly. But they were not arrested. They were captured on the battlefield, in the act of trying to kill Americans. They were soldiers, now prisoners of war.

I got no answers about whether the Bush A-holes are doing the right thing keeping them there. But let's not lose sight of why they are there.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 06:57 AM
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4. They weren't all captured on the battlefield
Some weren't even captured in Afghanistan. Or Asia, for that matter - people have been kidnapped from Europe and Africa and sent to Guantanamo.
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:36 AM
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5. So if you want to campaign for justice, lets scream about why.............
"innocent before proven guilty" some 600+ people are being held like animals in cages in Guantanamo without charges, legal counsel or evidence. Kind of makes you go "hmmmm?"
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 10:54 AM
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6. If you're inside Guantanamo Bay might you change
your mind?
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