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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:58 AM
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Let Them Eat Arugula by Jonathan Chait
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=64032fab-d36d-44b8-817c-6ba2f88f732d

Let Them Eat Arugula by Jonathan Chait
Hillary sure has become a populist these last few weeks--a conservative populist.
Post Date Thursday, May 08, 2008



The dying days of the Hillary Clinton campaign have brought the breathtaking spectacle of a candidate lashing out at every element of public life that has nourished her career. The über-wonk has disparaged economists and expertise. The staunch ally of black America has attacked her opponent for lacking support of "working, hard-working Americans, white Americans." People who thought they knew Hillary Clinton have gazed in astonishment: What has she become? The answer is, a conservative populist.

Conservative populism and liberal populism are entirely different things. Liberal populism posits that the rich wield disproportionate influence over the government and push for policies often at odds with most people's interest. Conservative populism, by contrast, dismisses any inference that the rich and the non-rich might have opposing interests as "class warfare." Conservative populism prefers to divide society along social lines, with the elites being intellectuals and other snobs who fancy themselves better than average Americans.

Consider this analysis recently offered by Bill Clinton in Clarksburg, West Virginia: "The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it's by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules." This is precisely the dynamic that allows multimillionaires like George W. Bush and Bill O'Reilly to present themselves as being on the side of the little guy. A more classic expression of conservative populism cannot be found.

Historically, the conservative populist's social divide ran along racial and ethnic lines. In recent years, overt racism has all but disappeared from mainstream political life, and even racial hot button appeals like the 1988 Willie Horton ad have grown rare. What remains is a residue of nostalgia about small towns--whose residents are said to have stronger values and work harder than other Americans, and who also happen to be overwhelmingly white. In 2004, after John Kerry declared that some entertainers supporting him represented "the heart and soul of America," George W. Bush embarked upon a national tour of small- and mid-sized cities, where he would say, "I believe the heart and soul of America is found in places like Duluth, Minnesota," or other such places.

Likewise, Bill Clinton recently declared, "The people in small towns in rural America, who do the work for America, and represent the backbone and the values of this country, they are the people that are carrying her through in this nomination." The corollary--that strong values and hard work is in shorter supply among ethnically heterogeneous urban residents--is left unstated. Hillary Clinton's statement about "hard-working Americans, white Americans" simply made explicit a theme that conservative populists usually keep implicit.

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One conceit of the conservative populist style is that its practitioners are "real," while its targets are "fake." For years, Hillary Clinton put herself forward as the earnest liberal policy wonk she actually is, while conservatives lambasted her as a phony. Since she started campaigning as the enemy of all she once held dear, some conservatives have started to appreciate her, even lauding her authenticity. The Weekly Standard's Noemie Emery gushed that after March 4, Hillary "began to seem real." Indeed, she is now real in exactly the same way the conservative populists imagine themselves to be.

Jonathan Chait is a senior editor at The New Republic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:03 AM
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:10 AM
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3. Spammed another thread? When will it end? n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:21 AM
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4. Thanks, but in case you hadn't noticed, I'm a white, female, middle-aged
Obama supporter. :hi:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:07 AM
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2. What have Hillary and Bill become? Who can recognize what they've morphed into anymore?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 08:32 PM
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14. Well, there is one theory..
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:38 AM
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5. Equating small towns with racism is simply wrong.
Small towns are where Americans of all races in my generation (65) grew up. Southern towns had lots of African-Americans. African-Americans moved to the north in the 1950s and 1960s. If southern small towns turned white, it was not until then. It is very elitist to think that nostalgia about small towns is racist. Nostalgia about small towns is about yearning for a quiet life, for home and the love of your family, simplicity and innocence, not racism. Those are memories and values that people of all races cherish. I think this article was hastily written and poorly reasoned.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:09 AM
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7. I'm sorry, but in some cases he is absolutely right.
There wasn't a single black person in the small town in which I did most of my growing up (and the town I lived in before that didn't have any black people either). It was in the north, all right, but you could not have found a single black face in it prior to 1980. It wa chock-full of racial prejudice, and prejudice against newcomers and outsiders in general, perpetuated by whites whose ancestors had lived there and farmed on the land since the late eighteenth century. And while life there was simpler and more innocent in some ways than it became later, that was more a matter of the times than anything else. Not only that, but simplicity and innocence aren't always positive values. Nor is everything 100% simple and innocent in a small town, for that matter.

I don't have false nostalgia about the time or place in which I grew up. I remember the good stuff for what it was, and I remember the bad stuff for what it was. I remmeber what it was like, being a newcomer in town with a funny ethnic last name because I was the granddaughter of 1920s immigrants. I remember my entire family being ridiculed and ostracized as outsiders. I remember people writing things on the side of our house. I remember kids ridiculing us in school. I remember someone uprooting a "DEAD END" sign from the end of the street and propping it on the lamppost in our yard.

And I was white.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:41 PM
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12. Sundown towns
Edited on Sat May-10-08 07:41 PM by alarimer
There were a number of them profiled in a PBS special a while back. Mostly (but not exclusively) in the south. Where blacks were not allowed inside the town after dark. And in many cases not allowed to live there at all. In at least one case it's still true. I am thinking of that town in Georgia.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:24 AM
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18. The presence of black people in America is mostly due to slavery.
So, if you didn't have black people in your small town, it is because the white people in your community never owed slaves -- or freed any slaves they did own.

My white ancestors lived in small towns in the midwest and were fervent abolitionists. Some of them fought in the Civil War on the side of the union -- out of fervent abolitionist conviction. That is why I really resent it when people lump all white people together and call them racist. That is why I really resent it when people lump all people who live in small towns together and call them racist.

The stereotyping of people who live in the midwest or north and in small towns as "racist" just because they are white is, itself, bigoted and racist.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:42 PM
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9. I don't know.
I've heard horror stories about some of those small Southern towns.

When my Aunt was a child(about 80 now)she saw a man burned alive in front of his family because he refused to "sell" his land. I heard other stories of rapes and lynchings. Not all blacks left those small towns for better opportunities.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:07 PM
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16. It's not about whether they are predominantly white...
It's about whether they were percieved to be predominantly white. You grew up in a small town but the perception most Americans have of small-town America owes almost nothing to the towns of your childhood and everything to Ma and Pa Kent. The people in those small towns (and incidently, in my experiance, they tend to be far more elitist than the traditional targets) may or may not be white but we're not talking about facts here, we're talking about the popular imagination.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:16 AM
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17. Excuse me, but some of the poorest people in America live in
Edited on Sun May-11-08 07:18 AM by JDPriestly
small towns in the midwest and south. And they are by no means all white. The percentage of people of color in southern small towns is pretty high.

It is in the north where people of color are primarily located in urban areas. And the reason for that is that those people of color migrated since the 1950s. Jobs were plentiful in urban areas, but not in rural areas. That is why there are more people of color in northern cities than in the rural areas of the north.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:12 AM
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20. Again, perception not reality
I know that there are plenty of people of colour in small town USA but we're not dealing with fact here, we're dealing with popular imagination and in the popular imagination, those small towns are mainly white.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:45 AM
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6. did she really say that? . . . were those the words she used? . . .
"working, hard-working Americans, white Americans."

since I don't follow GD-P very closely, I may have missed the actual report of this remark . . . if this is accurate, there is no way in hell she should be the nominee, and no way in hell I could ever vote for her . . . I remember all too well the days before civil rights legislation in the 60s, and I can't believe that Hillary could stoop so low as to equate "working Americans" and "white Americans" . . . is there a video of this online somewhere? . . . I'd like to hear it for myself . . .
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:08 PM
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8. Yes, she did...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-07-clintoninterview_N.htm

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.

Clinton's blunt remarks about race came a day after primaries in Indiana and North Carolina dealt symbolic and mathematical blows to her White House ambitions.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 06:28 PM
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10. I planted arugula 7 years ago, and let it
go to seed. Now all around my giant yard, arugula grows and smells wonderful. I do help it along in the fall by shaking the stalks full of seeds in every corner. I have fava beans as well.
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raul diblasio Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:32 PM
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11. Hillary did not come up with the arugula smear
It was Dowd et. al who criticized Obama for eating arugula.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 08:34 PM
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15. So? hilary's been too busy..
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 08:31 PM
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13. Hey, turns out hilary's a big phoney anyway
you look at it.
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:39 AM
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19. Kick & R
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