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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:50 PM
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‘Every Child’ In American Schools Needs To Learn ‘The...
more: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/king-teach-jesus /

Rep. King: ‘Every Child’ In American Schools Needs To Learn ‘The Tenets Of The Christian Faith’

Earlier this week, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) introduced legislation recognizing the “importance of Christmas and the Christian faith.” The resolution passed 372-9.

Wednesday on Fox News, King said he introduced the bill because he believes “we’re a Christian nation founded on Christian principles.” In an interview on Alan Colmes radio show yesterday, King went even further, saying that “every child” should “be taught” the “tenets of Christianity”:

COLMES: Should they be taught Christianity, should every child learn Christianity?

KING: I think they should learn it. If you’re going to learn American history, you cannot teach it without teaching Christianity.

COLMES: It’s one thing to teach the history of how religion may have been part of our growth as a country. It’s another thing to actually teach the tenets of a religion.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:52 PM
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1. O RLY?
King said he introduced the bill because he believes “we’re a Christian nation founded on Christian principles.”

My response: TREATY OF TRIPOLI, BITCH!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:55 PM
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3. Unfortunately, Kooch voted for King's turd of a bill in the house.
I'm disappointed in you, Dennis.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:57 PM
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4. *headdesk*
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 06:44 PM by sakabatou
We're still ways away from the national election.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:59 PM
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12. I'm proud to say my rep did the right thing and voted "No".
But she was one of only a handful.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:54 PM
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2. Every Child In American Schools Needs To Learn The Tenets Of The United States Constitution
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:26 PM
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8. A-fucking-men!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:20 PM
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10. Amen! and while we're at that to also: READ,SPEAK & THINK
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:02 PM
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5. He should have asked King... "Which Christian tenets?"
or "which Christianity???" Is it the father the son and the holy ghost or was Jesus God in the form of a person? Did Jesus visit the Americas with Moroni the archangel and leave golden tablets behind or is the Pope the infallible voice of God on earth?

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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:16 PM
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6. What part of the Constitution/Bill of Rights
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 06:17 PM by windoe
is being interpreted to say 'we are a Christian nation'??? Someone enlighten me, I think I missed something.
We are not a theocracy, only the bible college grads believe this distorted thinking.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:16 PM
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7. I was going to say "The Gettysburg Address"
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libertariandemocrat Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:03 PM
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9. Jesus Christ is......................
Santa Claus for "adults".

My guess is that the sermon on the mount would get low priority.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:54 PM
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11. There are certainly religious elements in American history, but we are not
and never have been "a Christian nation."

This is the right wing trying to convince people who are ignorant of history (i.e. the majority of the population) that the Founding Fathers would have all shouted "amen!" to the typical televangelist's sermon. In fact, they were mostly Deists.

To me, this smacks of the xenophobia that sprang up at the end of the nineteenth century, when Protestants in the Northeast were afraid of the Catholic and Jewish Europeans who were the majority of immigrants at the time. A lot of the school prayer laws were enacted at that time as an attempt to turn the immigrants Protestant.

We're having another wave of that, only this time, the target is meant to be Muslims, while the Catholics and Jews who were considered such a "threat to the American way of life" 100 years ago are now considered part of "the Judeo-Christian tradition."
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:42 AM
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13. every child in America actually needs to read....
The First Amendment to the US Constitution....and so should Steve King.

The First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
I mean, how much more clear can you get?

I call myself a Christian, but I don't go around jamming his word down people's throats. That wouldn't be Christian. How can I love my neighbor if I'm telling him what to do? That's not love, that's manipulation. Last time I checked I was supposed to be a Christian by example and not by strong-arming people.

Separation of Church and State should be constructed with a big brick wall, as far as I'm concerned. I don't think the government should be supporting any type of religion. If the government started supporting Christianity, who's version will they pick?..there are many. Keeping government out of religion protects my own beliefs.

http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/vaact.h...
The State of Virginia, was lucky to have Thomas Jefferson.
He may have had is own God, but certainly never wanted anything but religious freedom for all.
"Well aware that Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burdens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do..."

Freedom of Religion makes us all free. Even free to be stupid like Rep. Steve King.


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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 03:08 AM
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14. Let's see
Does that include: forgiving seventy times seven? Not killing? Not loving money? Giving all you have to those in need? Or will they also be taught the fixes which allow Americans to kill in revenge (see Afghanistan and Iraq, see torture), to amass huge amounts of money out of others misfortune (check out http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article3253... ) and blaming the poor for being poor while letting them starve?
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