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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 02:51 PM
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Americans have become 'Good Germans' (NYT)
more: http://www.alternet.org/stories/65199/

Americans Have Become 'Good Germans'

By Frank Rich, The New York Times. Posted October 15, 2007.

Bush lies" doesn't cut it anymore. It's time to confront the darker reality that we are lying to ourselves.

Ten days ago The Times unearthed yet another round of secret Department of Justice memos countenancing torture. President Bush gave his standard response: "This government does not torture people." Of course, it all depends on what the meaning of "torture" is. The whole point of these memos is to repeatedly recalibrate the definition so Mr. Bush can keep pleading innocent.

By any legal standards except those rubber-stamped by Alberto Gonzales, we are practicing torture, and we have known we are doing so ever since photographic proof emerged from Abu Ghraib more than three years ago. As Andrew Sullivan, once a Bush cheerleader, observed last weekend in The Sunday Times of London, America's "enhanced interrogation" techniques have a grotesque provenance: "Verschärfte Vernehmung, enhanced or intensified interrogation, was the exact term innovated by the Gestapo to describe what became known as the 'third degree.' It left no marks. It included hypothermia, stress positions and long-time sleep deprivation."

Still, the drill remains the same. The administration gives its alibi (Abu Ghraib was just a few bad apples). A few members of Congress squawk. The debate is labeled "politics." We turn the page.

There has been scarcely more response to the similarly recurrent story of apparent war crimes committed by our contractors in Iraq. Call me cynical, but when Laura Bush spoke up last week about the human rights atrocities in Burma, it seemed less an act of selfless humanitarianism than another administration maneuver to change the subject from its own abuses.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:01 PM
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1. "America does not torture"
not on American soil at least.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:10 PM
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2. yes, well, that is 'the party line' - and certainly debatable
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