Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

War Fading as Campaign Issue

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:35 PM
Original message
War Fading as Campaign Issue



Neither Dean nor Bush can count on Iraq


The Iowa caucuses produced a lot of surprising numbers, chief among them the number that Howard Dean did on his chances of becoming president.

It wasn't that Dean lost a big lead in Iowa or even that he finished third. He has the organization, the money and the fervent support that would ordinarily allow him to overcome that kind of setback. Besides, successful candidates almost always stumble at some point; it's a necessary part of the testing process, to see how they respond to adversity.

The former Vermont governor did not respond well.

It's a rule of politics that every presidential candidate must have a perceived weakness, a chink in the armor that opponents and the media will pick at relentlessly, and that the candidate must always defend. The most damaging mistake a politician can make is the kind that somehow confirms that perceived weakness. The classic example is former Vice President Dan Quayle, who was perceived as dumb and who confirmed that perception by, among other things, misspelling "potato."

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/bookman/inde...


Jay Bookman is the deputy editorial page editor. His column appears Thursdays and Mondays.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
1. True -- It Will be About Domestic Issues
And it's wise of the candidates to concentrate on that. Kerry and Edwards made the right deicision in Iowa. Dean waited too long to change gears from Iraq to economics. Wesley Clark is a good candidate, but he has got to get his domestic chops going quickly.

It doesn't matter how much we WANT Bush to get nailed over Iraq. It isn't likely to decide the election.

Jay Bookman, BTW, is a good editorialist. Despite his location in the heart of Dixie, he's written some very progressive and perceptive pieces.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
2. Bookman's an idiot
He probably did not even see "the speech". His editorial is just a collage of all the other lazy crap writing that I have seen all week since the Iowa caucus.

Does Bookman do any reporting? Does he even own a notepad and a pencil?

That the war is fading as an issue is more crap. Mr. Bush says we shall turn the gov't over to Iraq by June 30. No one will be ready and the result will be a disaster. The war will be an issue again.

Fine'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. So, he's an idiot because he could be wrong?
That then, would include you, wouldn't it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. He's an idiot because he added nothing of value in his column
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 01:56 PM by SpikeTrees
he is just parroting others. Maybe he was too busy playing racquetball or something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. You could be wrong, so does that make you an idiot?
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 01:56 PM by fjc
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. As far as I know, no one has suggested
that the war is fading as an issue, particularly among Democrats. So, who he's "parroting" is a bit of a mystery to me. It's clear to me you don't know who Jay is or what else he's written about this, so to me you're in pretty poor position to be calling him an idiot.

I think what he's saying is that Iowans, at least, are tired of hearing about this. That doesn't mean it won't still be effective at vote time. It'll be there, just like gravity, weighing Mr. Bush down, and it won't do Democrats well to keep the volume up. That is what Bookman takes from Dean's 3rd place showing. That's not an idiot talking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Here's a nice piece of reporting by Mr. Bookman
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2319.ht... \

Let me know when you're done grinding your teeth on this, if you didn't see it before. Take special notice of the date it was written.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. I was grinding my teeth before I read that article
Yes, it was very complete and insightful. I may have already read it 1-1/2 years ago--I certainly have read similar articles. I have been here a long time, remember.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
4. While the war might not be an issue between Democrats...
...I'd say it will still be a huge issue regarding Bush.

What has changed somewhat from a few months ago, I think, is that it's become far more clear that Congress was flat out lied to. Given that, it seems a lot of Democrats will be easier on those who voted yes to the IWR (based on Iowa alone, at this point. We'll see what happens in NH).

I doubt that Bush will get off so easily, however. I think it's a mistake to deduce that since Kerry did well in Iowa, Bush doesn't have to worry about the war anymore. He still does.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug 20th 2014, 12:24 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC