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johnhannahthree Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:36 AM
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The Padilla Verdict (Glen Greenwald)
"A federal jury in Miami today unanimously found U.S. citizen Jose Padilla guilty of "conspiracy to support Islamic terrorism overseas." In so doing, the jury dealt an enormous blow not only to Padilla himself, but also to the theory which the Bush administration cited to justify its most extremist power over the last six years -- namely, the power to imprison U.S. citizens, on U.S. soil, with no charges of any kind."

The administration repeatedly contended that it was exercising this extraordinary and definitively tyrannical power -- a power literally denied for centuries even to the British King -- because it claimed that dangerous terrorists like Padilla could not be tried in a U.S. criminal court. Today's verdict -- along with scores of other terrorist convictions obtained with full due process rights both in the U.S. and other places, such as England -- gives the lie to that claim."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:13 AM
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1. K/R
That the trial represents a major defeat for the Bush Regime's terrorist detention program is my take on the matter as well.
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johnhannahthree Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:32 PM
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2. thank god
i found someone on this board who agrees with me on this. everybody seems to think that because padilla was victimized by the bushies he's therefore some sort of hero who must be innocent. sure, some people ought to be in jail for what they did to him, but that doesn´t mean he should be there too. maybe he and gonzales could share "house"
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 03:28 PM
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3. Welcome to DU
Let's enlarge Gitmo in the future years and build a prison with two wings: one wing for Osama's terrorists and the other for Dubya's.

We wouldn't want to put them together. That might facilitate gang violence.
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johnhannahthree Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:58 AM
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7. gang violence
is a pretty good analogy for what they are doing now. Maybe just keeping it confined to a small slice of Cuba wouldn´t be a bad idea.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 04:37 PM
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johnhannahthree Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:24 PM
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5. nevermind
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 09:31 PM by johnhannahthree
I never said anyone stated he was a hero. I said some people seem to think that. And it is implicit from many posts that some people have elevated to martyr status in their minds. You may disagree with me on that. But I suppose anyone who disagrees with you is a lying.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:09 AM
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6. Another "illegal conspiracy"
Edited on Sat Aug-18-07 12:09 AM by ProudDad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Seven

On Edit: They were "convicted" too...
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