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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:20 PM
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The Porn King and the Preacher by Larry Flynt (who tells of his friendship with Jerry Falwell)
Edited on Wed May-23-07 08:27 PM by Douglas Carpenter
I thought his was such an amazing article...I highly recommend reading the whole thing.....

link: http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_5960065

"The Porn King and the Preacher
By Larry Flynt
Special to the Los Angeles Times

snip:"After several years of listening to him bash me and reading his insults, I decided it was time to start poking some fun at him. So we ran a parody ad in Hustler - a takeoff on the then-current Campari ads in which people were interviewed describing "their first time." In the ads, it ultimately became clear that the interviewees were describing their first time sipping Campari. But not in our parody. We had Falwell describing his "first time" as having been with his mother, "drunk off our God-fearing asses," in an outhouse.
Apparently, the reverend didn't find the joke funny. He sued us for libel in federal court in Virginia, claiming that the magazine had inflicted emotional stress on him. It was a long and tedious fight, beginning in 1983 and ending in 1988, but Hustler Magazine Inc. vs. Jerry Falwell was without question my most important battle"

snip:"To my amazement, we won. (in the Supreme Court -- after losing in a number of lower courts) It wasn't until after I won the case and read the justices' unanimous decision in my favor that I realized fully the significance of what had happened. The justices held that a parody of a public figure was protected under the 1st Amendment even if it was outrageous, even if it was "doubtless gross and repugnant," as they put it, and even if it was designed to inflict emotional distress. In a unanimous decision -- written by, of all people, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist -- the court reasoned that if it supported 's lower-court victory, no one would ever have to prove something was false and libelous to win a judgment. All anyone would have to prove is that "he upset me" or "she made me feel bad." The lawsuits would be endless, and that would be the end of free speech."

snip:"Everyone was shocked at our victory - and no one more so than Falwell, who on the day of the decision called me a "sleaze merchant" hiding behind the First Amendment. Still, over time, Falwell was forced to publicly come to grips with the reality that this is America, where you can make fun of anyone you want. That hadn't been absolutely clear before our case, but now it's being taught in law schools all over the country, and our case is being hailed as one of the most important free-speech cases of the 20th century. "

snip: "In the years that followed and up until his death, he'd come to see me every time he was in California. We'd have interesting philosophical conversations. We'd exchange personal Christmas cards. He'd show me pictures of his grandchildren. I was with him in Florida once when he complained about his health and his weight, so I suggested that he go on a diet that had worked for me. I faxed a copy to his wife when I got back home."

snip:" My mother always told me that no matter how repugnant you find a person, when you meet them face to face you will always find something about them to like. The more I got to know Falwell, the more I began to see that his public portrayals were caricatures of himself. There was a dichotomy between the real Falwell and the one he showed the public.

He was definitely selling brimstone religion and would do anything to add another member to his mailing list. But in the end, I knew what he was selling, and he knew what I was selling, and we found a way to communicate"

link to full article:

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_5960065

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:29 PM
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1. Interesting take on Falwell
basically, a salesman--just a different type of hustle than what Flynt does.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:55 PM
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2. I think that's basically it
I liked this line:

snip:" My mother always told me that no matter how repugnant you find a person, when you meet them face to face you will always find something about them to like. The more I got to know Falwell, the more I began to see that his public portrayals were caricatures of himself. There was a dichotomy between the real Falwell and the one he showed the public. "
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:55 AM
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3. Birds Of a Feather--They Both Peddled Porn
Whether it was physical or spiritual, it was legal. This says something about humanity better left unsaid.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:16 AM
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4. one kick because its such a good story
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