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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 04:56 AM
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Stop raids on Social Security
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Stop raids on Social Security
By Lawrence A. Hunter
December 15, 2006


Advanced maneuvering for the coming White House sellout on Social Security is well under way. The only question remaining is will the legacy-desperate, Iraq-beleaguered president succeed in bamboozling members of Congress into launching a totally unnecessary, strategically disastrous pre-emptive strike on Social Security to raise taxes and cut future benefits in the name of heading off a non-existent "solvency crisis?"

A worrisome sign the White House might actually pull off this scam came last week when one of the president's biggest cheerleaders for his last pre-emptive strike -- the Editors of National Review -- said they were willing to take personal accounts off the table and accept a Social Security tax increase. Here we go again.

Another indication that the sellout is well advanced came earlier this week when outgoing chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Rep. Bill Thomas, California Republican, reportedly told an American Enterprise Institute forum on tax havens and tax competition that the people he talks to inside the Bush administration are clearly signaling their willingness to acquiesce with a wink and a nod to higher marginal tax rates as part of a larger fiscal deal.

The administration's advance guard of Chicken Littles, such as the nonprofit FOG Brigade (For Our Grandchildren) -- call them neosolvents or "neosols" -- are fanning out through the Halls of Congress spreading fear about the program's solvency and propagating the urgency of cutting a deal with the Democrats before this president leaves office: It's the legacy, stupid. It looks like the president hopes to tempt Democrats into participating in what might be called "Operation Trinity," a pre-emptive strike on Social Security that forgoes use of conventional personal accounts in favor of three nuclear options: tax increases, benefit cuts and increases in the retirement age.

. . .

By actuarial standards applicable to any private pension fund, the Social-Security Ponzi scheme already is insolvent, papered over by IOUs Congress has written to itself. Social Security's near-term cash-flow situation, however, is quite good, scheduled to remain in surplus until 2017; until 2027 if the annual interest due the Trust Fund is taken into account, as it should be. Therefore, higher tax revenues today that enlarged and extended the surpluses would not improve the program's solvency; they would only paper it over with more IOUs and magnify the size of the theft Congress perpetrates on the Trust Fund each year. If Congress wants to do something serious about Social Security's solvency, it should stop the raid on Social Security, not expand it.

Rather than rush to the nuclear options of raising taxes, cutting future benefits and raising the retirement age, if Congress would only stop stealing the Trust Fund surpluses and get about actually paying the Trust Fund the annual interest owed it and then start using those surpluses and interest payments to begin prefunding future retirees' retirement, Social Security could be made solvent for decades to come without raising one new dollar in taxes or cutting a single dollar in future benefits or making old people work one year longer.

Lawrence A. Hunter is former staff director of the congressional Joint Economic Committee.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 08:16 AM
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1. The lockbox doesn't seem so funny anymore
He's not going to get away with this.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 12:37 PM
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2. Where should the trust put the money?
I've been confused by the for awhile.

Here is my understanding:

* The SSA receives money both from taxpayers and from interest on government bonds.
* It uses that money to pay for operations, and the surplus is put into the trust.
* The trust has to put that money somewhere, so it buys government bonds.

I grant that bonds could be considered nothing more than a fancy "IOU". But generally speaking, aren't government bonds considered the *safest* investment? Where should the trust invest the money if they don't put them into bonds?

So here's what I want to know - if the trust shouldn't be buying bonds, what should it be doing?
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:23 PM
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3. This is the Monkeys Final Jewel in His Crown
The monkey must be stopped.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:32 PM
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4. Monkey?
Is this an analogy for the Government?
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:34 PM
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6. You Know who
The Monkey is as well as I do.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 03:38 PM
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7. You must be from Texas
That's the only way this makes any sense.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 02:12 PM
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8. Bush is the Monkey, it's not hard to figure out.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-15-06 01:32 PM
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5. Oh Yes
The Democrats will control the agenda,the white house cannot do a thing unless they make some deal with them.We will see if the Democrats are looking out for the people.
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