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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 12:52 PM
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Lawrence O' Donnell: Rangel is Right (Pundits are combat cowards)
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 12:55 PM by RamboLiberal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/rangel-is-right_b_34667.html?view=print

Charlie Rangel is angry about the Iraq war, the one that Henry Kissinger has told us we can't win. Thanks, Henry, but most Americans figured that out before you did. Rangel saw combat in Korea. Kissinger has only seen combat on TV. That might have something to do with why Kissinger thinks our troops should stay in Iraq even though we can't win.

Kissinger says that if we leave now, all hell will break loose and Iraq will never achieve stability. Never mind that all hell has already broken loose. Never mind that Kissinger said the same thing would happen if we left Vietnam--all hell would break loose and Vietnam would never achieve stability. Vietnam has become so stable that Presidents Clinton and Bush, both combat cowards during the Vietnam war, have made well publicized, utterly safe visits to the country Kissinger used to think didn't have a chance without us.

In my one conversation with Kissinger, which occurred on TV, I asked him if he knew anyone who got killed in Vietnam. He was completely thrown. He doesn't go on TV to be asked such small-minded questions, he goes on TV to pontificate and TV interviewers are happy to let him do it. Kissinger sputtered and ran away from the question, leaving the distinct impression that he did not know anyone who was killed in the war he managed. His memoir of the period does not mention a single casualty. If you have ever stood at the Vietnam Memorial and run your hand over the name of a relative on the wall, as my mother and I did last month, you can get as angry as Charlie Rangel does about people like Kissinger deciding how long our soldiers should be exposed to enemy fire in a war we know we can't win.

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Rangel could never get such attention to that message without introducing his bill. Nancy Pelosi should let it come to a vote. She should let the House debate the draft. Let the Republicans give speeches listing all the good reasons why we should have a volunteer Army. But let's hear Rangel's speech about how the burden of war is not fairly shared in this country. Let's get America thinking about exactly who is being left in the line of fire in the war Americans have turned against and know we can't win. Let's get America thinking about John Kerry's line about Vietnam--who is going to be the last soldier to die for a mistake? A real debate on the draft will do that. Don't worry, the bill has no chance of passing.

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Advocating war is easier when you and your family are not endangered by it. I've reached a Rangel-like breaking point with my TV pundit colleagues who championed the Iraq war and now say we can't leave even if we went there for the wrong reasons. For every one of them, I have a simple question: Why aren't you in Iraq? Or why did you avoid combat in your generation's war? The one unifying characteristic that all of us men in make-up on political chat shows share is fear of combat. Every one of us has done everything we can to avoid combat or even being fitted for a military uniform. Just like George Bush, Bill Clinton, and Dick Cheney, we are all combat cowards. It takes a very special kind of combat coward to advocate combat for others. It's the kind of thing that can get you as angry as Charlie Rangel.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:02 PM
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1. We do not live in the world of Starship Troopers.
Civilians have a right to vote and there is civilian control of the military in America.. and I don't feel the need to have to defend this method of operation on a message board. It's just the way it's done here. There is a place for the civilian in politics and governance. Making bad decisions for the people who go and fight wars isn't excusable or a good thing but, this kind of argument that all of us not in uniform are cowards, and therefore cowards who should shut the ---- up, as the popular phrase goes, this is not something I feel I can at all support.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 01:03 PM
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2. Absolutely right. I support the draft 100% because I oppose the war 100%. Pro-war people need to
wake the hell up, but they won't until they see how it feels to have loved ones potentially on the line. Go Congressman Rangel!!! Pelosi should allow the debate. What's to be lost by talking about a draft?
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 02:18 PM
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3. Wars have always been fought by the poor
....at the command of the wealthy, of course.
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