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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 03:29 AM
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Time's Running Out: Richard A. Clarke
For years after the leaders of Nixon's Pentagon knew that the war in Vietnam could not be won, American troops died there. One of the greatest forces behind that unconscionable bloodletting was national security adviser and then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. His once secret memorandum from that time says that any U.S. troop withdrawal from Vietnam would be like "salted peanuts" for the American people - in other words, they would be addictive and the people would want more. We now learn from Bob Woodward's latest volume that the same Henry Kissinger, 83, is regularly visiting George Bush and advising him on Iraq.

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More than a generation after Vietnam, we appear to have returned to a moment when the Pentagon and other experts already know that the U.S. cannot achieve the President's goals.

Indeed, the Woodward book also claims that the overall U.S. commander for the Middle East, Gen. John Abazaid, admitted to Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) that there was little difference in their views on Iraq. Murtha, a Marine combat veteran, has called for immediate initiation of withdrawal from Iraq.

Murtha is right. And those who, in the face of overwhelming evidence, somehow cling to the idea that all we need are more troops to serve as targets of the insurgency are dead wrong.

So, how do we do it? By taking seven big steps:

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Implementing such a plan would not give Iraq over to Al Qaeda, but it would reduce the U.S. hemorrhaging there. Pass the salted peanuts, please.

http://goodharborreport.com/node/330

Peanuts, anyone? :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 04:09 AM
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1. kick and NOM nt
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:54 AM
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2. Must be a generational thing.
Every few generations we do silly wars that kill a lot of people and the leaders seem to want them and the people must be talked into them. Course our govt. was set up not to let that happen. The peoples House was to have the finally word. Kings were not going to take us into wars they wanted.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:38 AM
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4. It's because we don't learn our history
and therefore each generation repeats it.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:50 AM
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5. And we often just recall what we want to on the wars.
There is really a thing about the winner writing history. How can one class the bombing of cities that were not war making centers as good places to bomb to the ground yet, Japan, Germany, Brits, and USA all did that and it is madness just to think what happened on the Western Front in WW1.Most of the time if you bring these places up people do not even know what you are talking about. That is one of the sad parts of the Middle East. I know of Am. that have never heard of the Ottomans but in the Middle East it is in their face and in their minds. I have been there and they still talk of the Turks.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:18 AM
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3. May Abuzaid (and others) have the courage to DEFY ORDERS -
If they are asked to take any action against Iran, under any circumstances.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:55 PM
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6. Thanks for posting Starfury
Kicked and recommended

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:05 PM
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7. Look at who is guiding the ideology behind our foreign policy...
Dr. Stangelove and closet fascist Michael Ledeen.

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