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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:51 AM
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Bush wants a bloodbath in Baghdad
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/sep2006/iraq-s21.shtml

By Bill Van Auken

21 September 2006


Increasingly desperate over the deteriorating situation in Iraq, the
Bush administration is demanding that the US-installed government in
Baghdad support a savage intensification of repression or give way to a
dictatorial regime that will.

This is the significance of a series of reports—based largely on
comments made by unnamed US officials—that have appeared in the press in
recent days.

On Wednesday, the New York Times published a front-page lead that had
all the earmarks of a story planted with the aim of preparing US public
opinion for a coup in Baghdad.

“Senior Iraqi and American officials are beginning to question whether
Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki has the political muscle and
decisiveness to hold Iraq together as it hovers on the edge of a full
civil war,”the Times declared...

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:58 AM
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1. Maybe it's another Ngo Dinh Diem moment for the US
Some history:

On orders from U.S. President John F. Kennedy, Henry Cabot Lodge, the American ambassador to South Vietnam, refused to meet with Diệm. Upon hearing that a coup d'etat was being designed by ARVN Generals led by General Dương Văn Minh, the United States gave secret assurances to the generals that the U.S. would not interfere. Dương Văn Minh and his fellow plotters overthrew the government and executed President Diệm and his younger brother, Ngô Đình Nhu, on November 2, 1963. The United States publicly expressed shock and disappointment that Diệm had been killed. Coincidentally, U.S. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated just twenty days later. Some Vietnamese believed it was Diem's ghost that went for revenge since President Kennedy approved the coup.

When Madame Nhu, visiting the United States at the time, learned of the coup d'état, she immediately identified the United States as the perpetrator. She later said, "Whoever has the Americans as allies does not need enemies." Madame Nhu went on to predict a dark future for Vietnam and that, by being involved in the coup, the troubles of the United States in Vietnam were only beginning.



Prime Minister al-Maliki needs to watch his back!!!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:01 AM
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3. Maliki and whoever follows have impossible task: If they please Bush...
their own people will kill them. If they try to please their people Bush will kill or at least remove (depending on his level of medication that day).
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:06 AM
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4. Sounds like anti-Kennedy, freeper propaganda to me n/t
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:07 AM
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2. Dear Leader is getting his wish. However, it didn't work so well for USA
in Central and South America, why do these blood-thirsty nincompoops think that it will subdue "the ones left over" now?!? :crazy:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:10 AM
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5. If this is true
Then presumably the US has someone standing by, ready to become the new dictator. Who would that be? A military strongman? A religious fanatic?

One of his first orders of business would probably be to have Saddam quickly executed.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:45 PM
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6. I believe that is definitely in the plans.
They've probably got a line-up of Replacements, one to go in right after the other....

Re: religious fanatic. I sorta doubt the planners would religious people - they're too principled, they have their own agenda, too hard to control etc etc. Look at Muqtada Al Sadr, Ayatollah Al Sistani, Ayatollah Khomeini for that matter. Not Good.

No, a military dictator is more their style.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:13 PM
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7. A non-religious dictator would have a harder time than Saddam
He'd be facing sectarian militias that didn't exist in Saddam's day. They're armed, organized, and determined. Even if we put Saddam himself back in power -- which of course wonn't happen -- he'd have a very hard time reestablishing the kind of control he had before.

Well. Installing new leaders didn't work in South Vietnam, and it will fail even more spectacularly and bloodily in Iraq.
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