Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

WP: "Thug ethos," obssession with "respect," and increase in violent crime

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:11 AM
Original message
WP: "Thug ethos," obssession with "respect," and increase in violent crime
The Neighborhood War Zone
By David Kennedy
Sunday, August 13, 2006; Page B01

....Not long ago, the United States was declaring "mission accomplished" on crime: Homicide rates were plunging, the crack epidemic was over, the broken windows were fixed. Now, preliminary FBI statistics show that homicides rose nearly 5 percent in 2005, and news from around the country suggests that 2006 is looking worse. Our many Iraqs at home are making it clear that the self-congratulation was premature. In reality, Americans were lulled into complacency about violent crime. And two new factors have emerged: Some of the law enforcement tactics used to fight crime in recent years damaged the social fabric in many communities and contributed to increased crime. More important has been the spread of a virulent thug ethos -- an obsession with "respect" that has made killing a legitimate response to the most minor snubs and slights. In parts of the District's Anacostia neighborhood today, a young man knows that the wrong kind of eye contact with the wrong person -- a "hard look" -- can cost him his life....We are used to thinking of the many factors that drive crime -- poverty, inequality, demographics, racism, and family and community problems. But to that list we should add the spread of a subculture once found only in the toughest urban areas: the culture of respect.

My research in Baltimore, Boston, Minneapolis, Washington and many other cities, along with that of colleagues at the University of California at Irvine and at Michigan State University, shows that in hard-hit neighborhoods, the violence is much less about drugs and money than about girls, vendettas and trivial social frictions. These are often referred to as "disputes" in police reports and in the media. But such violence is not about anger-management problems. The code of the streets has reached a point in which not responding to a slight can destroy a reputation, while violence is a sure way to enhance it. The quick and the dead are not losing their tempers; they are following shared -- and lethal -- social expectations.

I've heard shooters say, in private, that they wanted no part of what happened. But with their friends and enemies watching -- and the unwritten rules clear to everybody -- they did what they had to do....All of this is spreading as well as amplifying the street definition of what it means to have honor. In big cities, the quest for honor reignites existing conflicts; in small ones, it brings big-city behavior and big-city problems. Working recently on Long Island with the Nassau County Police Department, my colleagues and I found Bloods, Crips -- and violence. But the gangs were homegrown, and the violence was almost entirely personal....

***

Tragically, the code of the street -- and the community disorganization and disenfranchisement on which it thrives -- has been helped along by law enforcement. Profligate arrests and incarcerations, many aimed at drugs, have destroyed the village in order to save it. As crime has dropped, zealous enforcement has continued. A staggering 2 million people are now incarcerated in the United States, and about 5 million are on probation and parole. They disproportionately come from -- and return to -- the same neighborhoods. The Justice Policy Institute recently determined that a shocking 52 percent of Baltimore's black men ages 20 to 29 were incarcerated, on probation or on parole; nationally, the lifetime chance of a black man being locked up is one in three....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/11/AR2006081101333.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:31 AM
Response to Original message
1. Based on subject line, I thought this was about the bush "administration"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Not surprising! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:09 AM
Response to Original message
3. "Dising" is a capital crime...and the rules make feudal societies look
simple. As the article states, originally an inner city issue, it is propagating to the burbs. We got exposed to it a little bit through my youngest daughter when we were together in MD. Scary stuff, the worst IMO is the misogynist component.

Apparently she had "dissed" a male student in class (we could did find out how, or what she did). Since she was a she and not "his", his girlfriend and several of her friends came after her. 4 on 1 confrontation. After she dropped one of the attackers, improvised weapons came out. Things were about to get really ugly when school staff intervened.

In a counselor based mediation session, the dialog went something like "We had to do it she dissed...." When my daughter was asked about it, she genuinely could not recall any incident. When they did a face to face over it, when she expressed that it was "you &#@$%, you know what you did!". Best we could tell none of the attackers actually knew what my daughter had purportedly done. The male in question disavowed any knowledge...leaving the girls unsupported. The other curious item that came out was that they attackers expected my daughter to just accept the a mild beat down (since that is what honor required) and thing would be been fine. They openly told the staff that they were doing a beatdown on her. They blamed her for resisting the physical assault and therefore was the cause of the problems they were having. Despite some race based please from their parents, they all end up being suspended and two expleed later expelled.

An interesting issue that came up was that they assumed that my daughter understood the byzantine rules of dissing and retribution that they lived by.

She and the rest of the family moved back to CA that summer, while I miss them, part of me are glad to have gotten them the hell out of Dodge. To see a subculture emerging that demeans women to sex objects and elevates the male ego above everything is more than a little ugly and more than a little scary.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Your Story Is Profoundly Disturbing
Sounds like West Side Story on steroids. Where do young people get these death camp ideas?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. read the article...it has some insight, though as always, the M$M
can not synopize anything well, and there are always agendas. There are also strong racial overtones in this as well. However, its there and its real. Daughter #1's comments were that while most adults think the Hollywood version is hyped and overacted, its actually being underplayed. I am not sure if "dis" is in the published urban dictionaries yet, but it certainly is part of the lexicon, attributed to hip hop music. My own take is that you can't spell crap without rap, and refuse to take it seriously. Been confronted a few times over it, but due to my size and demeanor, it has never come to anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. Oh, gosh -- thanks for adding this real-life example to the thread.
Best to you and your family.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bedpanartist Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
6. Dick Cheney, a Thug's Life
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:53 PM
Response to Original message
8. OMFG, that's like a fucking tribal society. I think I'm gonna be sick...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:37 PM
Response to Original message
9. Hey, the poverty rate goes up, the crime rate goes up.
It's pretty much a given.

Not to mention the chimp slashing President Clinton's policies, including reducing the number of cops on the street.

We reap what we sow. When we ignore the inner city and make more people poor, this is what happens.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 04:16 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC