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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:07 AM
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Rice Empties Both Barrels on Venezuela's Chavez
February 19, 2006

Rice Empties Both Barrels on Venezuela's Chavez
By Jim Kouri

(AXcess News) New York - The Venezuelan president viewed by the Bush Administration as a communist madman got some choice words from the US Secretary of State.

Making her sharpest criticisms yet about Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, Condoleezza Rice said that Venezuela and Cuba are "sidekicks" of Iran and dangers to Latin American democracies. And she gave new details of a US diplomatic campaign to contain Chavez. Recently, a member of the Iranian parliament visited Cuba for meetings with his counterparts. The meetings between the Iranians and Cubans and Venezuelans bring to mind the axiom "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Rice told the members of the House International Relations Committee that there was a need to convince Chavez that there "a united front against some of the things that Venezuela gets involved in." Rice also made reference to suspicions that Venezuela was linked to a recent political crisis in Nicaragua.

"Frankly, one of the problems that we face is that you have a bit of a relationship, or quite a relationship, between Cuba and Venezuela . . . which I think is a particular danger to the region," Rice said.
(snip/...)

http://www.axcessnews.com/modules/wfsection/article.php...

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:09 AM
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1. figuratively
phew.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:40 AM
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15. No kidding. nt
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:10 AM
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2. Did he sneak up on her?
Did she mistake him for a peasant (I mean, pheasant)?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:11 AM
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3. She';s dumbass. Cuba--major threat? lol
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:18 AM
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9. Cuba is the worst kind of threat imaginable to idiot conservatives.
An ideological threat that they can't directly control.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:13 AM
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4. Was she drunk like Cheney? nt
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:14 AM
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5. she is so pathetic, what lies-
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 11:15 AM by winston61
I expect they'll reveal in the coming weeks that Chavez also kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, killed JFK, and bombed Pearl Harbor. This is a guy they want dead so bad they can taste it. Hugo better watch his own ass and watch the people who watch his ass. When you say no to the economic hit men, the jackals move in to kill.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:41 AM
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17. Chavez is part of a vast leftist revolution in Latin America. They can't
assassinate this revolution. It's even spreading to Mexico--looks like the leftist mayor of Mexico City, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, is going to be elected president.

See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Virtually the entire map of South America has gone "blue"--with leftist governments elected by big votes over the last several years in BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, URUGUAY, VENEZUELA and recently in CHILE (first woman president--tortured by Pinochet!) and BOLIVIA (first indigenous president). PERU will likely be next. An amazing revolution! (Good web site on it: www.venezuelanalysis.com )

Key to it: TRANSPARENT elections--the result of a lot of hard work by local citizen groups, the OAS, EU election groups and the Carter Center. North Americans, TAKE NOTE!*

I'm not sure what the political situation is, overall, in Central America--but Lopez Obrado's high polling numbers indicate that the leftist revolution in South America is spreading north.

Let it come here! Let it some here! :headbang:

-------------------------

*Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:16 AM
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6. Well it was chavez's fault
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 11:16 AM by Pharaoh
He got in her line of fire.....

He should apologize to Rice for being shot by her and putting her through so much grief.....

O8)
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:16 AM
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7. Do They Sort for Idiocy, Or Just Spread It?
Since Jan of 2001, there has been minimal contact between DC and Reality. Of all the fantasists employed by BushCo, Kindasleazy has got to be the worst. She can't lie, can't manipulate the truth, and has no sense of timing. GET THE HOOK!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:17 AM
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8. Judi you forgot the pic!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:20 AM
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11. I have to wear a braid of garlic while viewing that. nt.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:23 AM
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12. Hey, thanks! By the way, it seems she only takes sinister photos anymore.
That one almost looks like something by the Amazing SwampRat.

Bush must find it so arousing having a 24/7 rattlesnake out doing his bidding. I haven't heard one moderate word from her for years.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:19 AM
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10. Chavez just 'peppered', he'll be fine. nt.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:24 AM
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13. Someone needs to keep Rice away from the bad acid she's tripping on.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:37 AM
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14. And CANADA has one heck of a good relationship w Cuba & Castro.
As does a lot of the world including the UK.

So, Rice...ya stupid ignorant ****, shut the fuck up.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:41 AM
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16. Let's take Condi Rice quail hunting with us!
And let this Nazi dominatrix bitch get it with both barrels!

Condi is a Black version of Ann Coulter!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:42 AM
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18. hmmmmm -do you think
china is ready to spend a few billions of our walbucks to rebuild the channel to ship venezuela oil back home?
actually no one in the world gives a shit what she says
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:05 PM
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22. I think you got it, Madrchsod! The Latin Americans have told these
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 12:08 PM by Peace Patriot
criminals to go jump off a cliff. Soon Mexico will as well.

Does Iran not have the right to VISIT COUNTRIES and MAKE DEALS IN ITS OWN INTEREST? Doesn't Venezuela? Brazil? Argentina? Chile? Bolivia? (--they threw Bechtel OUT, for privatizing WATER and jacking up the price to the poor!), Uruguay? Cuba? China? Russia? The EU? The PNAC/Neo-Cons thought they could re-draw the map of the world to enrich war profiteers and US-based transnationals, but they are finding that the rest of the world takes offense at this, and are making their own alliances and decisions, in the case of Latin America on the basis of TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS, in which--ahem--LEFTIST governments ALWAYS win, because LEFTIST governments operate in the interest of the majority of people, and if you COUNT ALL THE VOTES, the MAJORITY wins!

Condi & Co. can forget trying to isolate Chavez. They can no more stop the revolution in Latin America than they can impose another Shah on Iran. It is not in the cards. The trend of this century is going against them, and they will be toppled in the end. :hurts:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:47 AM
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19. I usually don't explain moves
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 11:49 AM by OKNancy
most are self-explanatory, but I will do so this time. This article is not really news but an editorial by Jim Kouri, a right-wing hack. THe whole article is fill with editorial comments and his personal views.


For example:
Delusions of grandeur in this volitile leader is creating concerns due to his one precious commodity -- oil. As with leftists in the US and Europe, Chavez often makes outlandish statements hoping something will gain traction. His almost constant verbal attacks on America are the recognized strategy of most repressive dictators -- to keep the focus off what they are doing

( Note; he misspelled volatile, not me - lol )

Edit: also this article is talking about something that happened last Thursday
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:55 AM
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20. Thanks for your comments. I'm not familiar with his name.
Unfortunately, we're so bombarded with right-wing interpretations of everything it all starts blurring together, and the words swimming before your eyes, eventually, while you try to locate parts of the story you CAN believe.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:58 AM
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21. Chvez vows to resist US 'inoculation strategy'
Chvez vows to resist US 'inoculation strategy'

Julian Borger in Washington
Saturday February 18, 2006
The Guardian

Venezuela's president, Hugo Chvez, said he would resist an "imperialist attack" after Washington announced it would pursue an "inoculation strategy" against his government by creating a united front against its policies.
The rhetoric reflected a rapid deterioration in relations between the two countries after Venezuelan espionage allegations against the US and tit-for-tat expulsions of diplomats.

The US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, used her harshest language to date in testimony to Congress on Thursday in which she called Venezuela and Cuba "sidekicks" of Iran, and launched a campaign to rally international opposition to the Chvez government.

Ms Rice said the campaign amounted to "an inoculation strategy" against Venezuela, which she accused of "attempting to influence neighbours away from democratic processes".
(snip/...)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela/story/0,,1712499,00...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 05:35 AM
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27. This is just so absurd I have to say something about it:
"...she accused (Venezuela) of 'attempting to influence neighbours away from democratic processes'."

1. Chavez has been repeatedly elected and endorsed by big majorities of Venezuelans in highly monitored elections. The OAS, EU election monitoring groups and the Carter Center have all confirmed that Venezuelan elections are honest and aboveboard. The same cannot be said for the United States and the Bush junta and our completely NON-TRANSPARENT election in 2004, in which rightwing Bushite corporations (Diebold and ES&S) counted all the votes using 'TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code (they have open source in Venezuela) with virtually no audit/recount controls, and in which Republican operatives in Ohio and other states actively and illegally suppressed tens of thousands of black, poor, student and other Democratic votes.

2. Reality is exactly the OPPOSITE of what Rice is saying here. She accuses Venezuela of "attempting to influence neighbors AWAY from democratic processes." In truth, Chavez and Venezuela are part of a huge trend of previously UN-democratic countries TOWARD democratic processes. Chavez is a big supporter of Constitutional government, the rule of law, and open, fair elections, and Chavez/Venezuela are only one aspect of profound leftist revolution that is sweeping Latin America, with virtually the entire map of South America turning "blue" over the last few years, and leftist governments getting elected in BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CHILE, URUGUAY, VENEZUELA and recently BOLIVIA, with PERU likely next. This huge, and deep, democratic/leftist trend is also moving north--it looks like MEXICO is going to elect the leftist mayor of Mexico City as president this year. Chavez is helping to inspire this profound peaceful revolution, but he is by no means alone. In BOLIVIA, for instance, they elected their first indigenous president, Evo Morales, who swamped the other candidates in a field of eight. He, too, campaigned on anti-imperialist themes--and in particular against Bechtel (which the Bolivians ejected from their country) and the murderous U.S. "drug war." In CHILE, they elected their first woman president, Michelle Batchelet, a woman who lost her family to Pinochet (US-backed dictator), and was herself tortured. BRAZIL, another leftist government, was the leader of a coalition of third world countries that revolted against the dictates of the US/World Bank cabal at the WTO meeting in Cancun a few years ago. Similarly, ARGENTINA has had it with US/World Bank imperialism and is actively seeking an independent economy. Chavez is as much a product of these developments, as he is a leader of it. This is a huge, GRASS ROOTS movement of the people of Latin America, based on TRANSPARENT elections. The Bushites cannot stop it. They cannot assassinate it. It is not dependent on one leader.

3. There is no way in hell that the Bush junta can "inoculate" anyone (whatever the hell that means) against the entire subcontinent of South America. They can try to inject whatever poison they will, but it simply will not work--the opposite is happening. The third world is inoculating itself against BUSH & CO. They are making their own decisions and forming their own economic, political and security alliances, and they couldn't care less what Condoleeza Rice thinks about it. The Bush regime is financially bankrupt. It has wasted and destroyed the U.S. military, and much of our government solidity and infrastructure. They're selling U.S. ports to the UAE shiekdom, for godssakes. And they have destroyed whatever goodwill the U.S. had in the world prior to the invasion of Iraq. Chavez speaks for much of the world. Condoleeza Rice speaks for a hated minority of billionaires and transnational corporations, and everybody knows it.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:02 PM
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23. At least Venezuela is a democracy, unlike the US, you fascist bitch!
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:11 PM
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24. Chavez for prez--Go Citgo
This is why I ONLY fill up my gas tank at Citgo. It is owned by Venezuela, thus most of the profits go to Venezuela as opposed to wealthy arabs and Texans.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 06:14 PM
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25. "Sidekicks of Iran" because an Iranian politician visited them
Then what does that make Saudi Arabia to the United States?

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:28 PM
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26. Husband and wife? n/t
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