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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:05 AM
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OC Register: Bush's Patriot Act setback a win for us
Tuesday, December 27, 2005

Bush's Patriot Act setback a win for us

Editorial: Congress' refusal to be a rubber stamp sets stage for a debate on balancing liberty and security.


Although it was in some ways a tribute to Congress' bumbling ways, the outcome for the USA Patriot Act - an extension for only five weeks, until Feb. 5 - was an unalloyed defeat for the Bush administration. The president had repeatedly said he would not accept a "short-term extension," but in the end he was forced to yield to congressional doubts about certain provisions of the act, with the White House even intervening with House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner to get him to agree to the short extension the Senate preferred.

The refusal to rubber-stamp the controversial Patriot Act was a victory for the American people. It suggests that finally, four-plus years after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Americans have impressed on their legislators the idea that they are not willing to accept any and all expansions of government power that some official can dream up in the name of a safety that can never be 100 percent guaranteed.

It is useful to remember that the original Patriot Act, passed within weeks of the 9/11 attacks, was not a tailored response to the specific terrorist threats we face - about which U.S. intelligence agencies, obviously knew very little - but a pastiche of off-the-shelf measures to extend government power, many of which had been proposed by the Clinton administration but rejected by the Republican Congress.

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So the idea that failure to renew the entire Patriot Act in all its confusing glory will set the stage for a terrorist attack is a scare tactic, plain and simple.

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http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/opinion/abox/article_916600.php

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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:17 AM
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1. Thanks for posting........here's another one....
Overreaching executive action and arrogance
Editorial: President defends authorizing domestic spying without court permission
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/opinion/atoz/article_904100.php

The Orange County Register

It was bad enough when the New York Times revealed that since early 2002, under an executive order from President Bush, the National Security Agency has been conducting surveillance inside the United States, almost certainly on U.S. citizens, without any sort of warrant approved by any sort of court. It was doubly disturbing that the president defended this practice and said, in effect, "Don't talk to me about laws or constitutions, I'll keep doing it until Congress or a court stops me."

Did the president willfully violate both the Constitution and federal statute? Congress and the courts need to investigate this question aggressively. If the people express concern, they will.

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