State Battles Likely if Roe Overturned {I thought I had prepared myself

[rodeodance]

for this very real possibility the day Bush was selected 5 years ago. But, I am not, just am not--.


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State Battles Likely if Roe Overturned

By DAVID CRARY, Associated Press Writer Sat Nov 5,11:56 PM ET

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President Bush's nomination of conservative Samuel Alito to replace moderate Justice Sandra Day O'Connor heightens the prospect of tighter restrictions on abortion, and another vacancy could occur any time that might tip the balance on Roe itself.

Roe's reversal would not outlaw abortion nationwide; the issue would revert to the states, with patchwork consequences. Some states would likely ban almost all abortions, others would allow them to continue unfettered, and a middle group might impose restrictions that would make abortions harder to obtain.

If the pre-Roe past is any guide, affluent women in states with bans would likely find ways to have safe abortions, either traveling to a no-ban state or hiring a doctor willing to flout the law. Abortion-rights activists say poor women would have fewer recourses; some might resort to using cheap, widely available abortion-inducing medicines that didn't exist before Roe.

"What an appalling thought — American women reduced to going outside the health care system and acting like they're in a Third World country," said Dr. Wendy Chavkin, a Columbia University professor who chairs Physicians for Reproductive Choice and Health.

[bluestateguy]

1. I wonder how anti-abortion laws will be enforced

I think the opponents owe us that much: how will laws be enforced banning abortion, or laws that allow exceptions for rape and incest?

[rodeodance]

2. Each state law will prevail. --but it will be utter chaos.

[Catfight]

3. This is good news, the more Roe is linked to Alito the more outrage

there will be. The war is on, it's Bush's base against the real America.

[cassiepriam]

4. Will be like in the 70's. Girls had to fly to New York to get an abortion.

So only women with money could get one.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

6. This time, perhaps

a VERY public foundation could be set up (by NARAL, Planned Parenthood et al.) to provide abortions and travel for poor women in 3rd world states like Alabama, Mississippi, West Virginia, Texas, Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho, South Carolina, Arkansas et al.

Lots of gorey billboards, too, just like the other side. Only these will be of young girls dying of sepsis, babies in dumpsters, that kind of thing.

IF this happens (and I'd say it's a pretty strong "if,") then we have to be prepared to fight back HARD and mean.

[cassiepriam]

9. Or perhaps we will go back to the days of the orphanages

where women can leave the children they cannot support. Like Romania, where abortion and birth control were illegal. And the unwanted children were warehoused in barns like animals.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

10. We're not THAT backwards!

We'd warehouse them for a ready-made Division of cannon fodder. Screw the draft, and screw the volunteer military too. We could just raise up entire generations of unwanted babies to be retroactively aborted at the whim of a war-mongering republican to be elected later.

I hate being Orwellian on a Sunday!

:hurts:

[cassiepriam]

11. The draft = retroactive abortion. Like destroying Iraq to save it.

Save a fetus to kill it later as cannon fodder. Brilliant Plan. Evil but brilliant.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

12. Every single American,

every single Iraqi who has died in this filthy, rotten, unnecessary war, has been "retroactively aborted" by a man who considers himself part of the "kutcher of liiiiiiiife."

If we were into framing our own issues, we'd frame that one that way.

God's teeth, but the best part of George W. Bush ran down his Mama's leg!

:nuke: :grr:

[cassiepriam]

14. It is not just *. It is also the american people who allowed him

to take power. Bush will have to answer one day for his war crimes
but so will the American people.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

15. Oh, sure, no doubt

but the fact remains that, once * has done his damage and the nation is suffering for it, just as you couldn't find a nazi in post-war Germany, you won't be able to find a Bushista here.

Yeshua said "The poor ye have always with ye." If he was around today he'd amend his remarks to include the stupid.

[cassiepriam]

16. Funny I keep thinking about post war Germany too. If all the Bush

fans disappear than we will all be seen as guilty. Like Germany. And yes in America many people function like children. No intellectual skills and no moral compass. But that may change. Adversity builds character, and I think we are going to have some character building moments coming up in the near future, called reality. May be time for Americans to grow up.

[HockeyMom]

5. Pandora's Box

Nearly impossible to enforce. I can remember when abortion was legal in NY and illegal in NJ. You would have women from say, Newark, getting on a PATH train (hardly cost prohibitive) to NYC for a legal abortion there. It caused a lot of bad feeling between the states.

Require state residency for an abortion in a legal state? How can they do that and not require residency for say somebody in one state going to another state for something like cancer treatment? Besides which you cannot restrict travel between states. How many people go from one state to another to buy liquor in so called "dry states" or even other states to buy fireworks? It's impossible to control.

My feeling is that they know this and that is why they will try to legislate FEDERAL bans, just like they are trying to do now. Far too many states, especially New York and California, will not enact laws to ban abortion. There is not the public support for it.

[BlueManDude]

7. 50 mini Civil Wars with RW Christo-Fascists vigilantes killing people

sounds like fun

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. There will be a great new blackmarket for RU486

and other 'morning after' pills.

And an upsurge in sales of bleach.

[cassiepriam]

13. Young people don't remember the old days.

Back street abortions, do it yourself methods.