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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:13 PM
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GOP Proposes Bill That Would Suspend ALL Laws
Say what?!
Sacrifice Liberty in the name of Security..DESERVES NEITHER...
GOPOT HOW DO THESE GUYS LOOK IN THE MIRROR?..DID THEY EVER STUDY US history or the US Constitutiton???

http://www.intl-news.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=395

"On January 26, 2005, Rep. Sensenbrenner introduced the REAL ID Act of 2005 (H.R. 418). In the name of homeland security, it includes a number of items changing immigration laws, use of drivers' licenses, etc.

But -- most overlooked -- is Section 102 of this bill. It would empower the Secretary of Homeland Security to suspend any and all laws in order to ensure the "expeditious" construction of a set of barriers and roads south of San Diego, to keep illegal immigrants out. It also would prohibit ANY judicial review of the Secretary of Homeland Security's decision to suspend any law. ON EDIT: While the law the bill references mentions barriers and roads "near San Diego," it does not appear to be (technically speaking) limited to that area -- but to any barriers or roads "in the vicinity of the United States border." (GO) "


Its the duty of EVERY Citizen to resist Treason...

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:18 PM
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1. The law itself will get demolished under judicial review
No way can an extra-constitutional department be given blanket authority to suspend the laws the United States.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:33 PM
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2. Courts cannot review decision by homeland security director..
according to this article..now I am no attorney but its past too late for the busheviks..their plan is simple..1984 to the US citizens..splendor in the grass for globalist bush and his neo-conthradals..

"It's an incredible usurpation of the rule of law. A cabinet secretary is given the right to suspend any and all laws. And guess what? The courts are prohibited from reviewing his decision! Perfect! So the Secretary can abuse his "authority" all he wants. No review. No nothing. Welcome to the Second Term.

Let me repeat the language:

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/5/15448/41910
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:35 PM
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3. That's not so clear as it ought to be
Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution gives the Supreme Court appellate jurisdiction "with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make." My recollection is that this provision hasn't been litigated much, and its boundaries are unclear, but there might be at least a colorable argument that Congress could get away with insulating certain "homeland security" matters from judicial review. The practical problem is that any such claim would be adjudicated, in the first instance, by some federal district judge who was appointed because he raised a lot of money for the local right-to-life group; the appeal would go to a panel of former prosecutors and industry lawyers; and the appeal from there would go to the same Supreme Court that selected Bush originally.

Caveat: Although I'm a lawyer, I haven't researched this issue at all. Maybe I'm just being paranoid to think that my freedoms might be in jeopardy, with Bill Rehnquist and the gang on the job to protect them. Then again, maybe I'm not being paranoid.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:42 PM
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4. I dunno know..
but if this law regarding homeland security, a term coined by nazis,is real then attorneys and courts can't review it cuz its national security..
they are calling the tunes and we cannnot dance...
but we can still scream and hollar..
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:46 PM
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5. I'm thinking more of Marbury v. Madison review of constitutionality
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 04:54 PM by Sandpiper
Of the Act itself. My reasons for believing this law won't stand are completely aside from Congress's proposed limits on judicial review of Homeland Security decisions.

The reason I think this bill doesn't pass muster is because Congress does not have the authority to give an extra-constitutional cabinet Secretary the power to suspend the laws of the United States, thereby placing him/her above the law.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 04:52 PM
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6. good point..but bush thus far has been above and around every law
and his thugs like true nazis intimidate dissidents into submission..bush has an agenda and its the complete destruction of the middle class..its his purpose..lets not underestimate this bush criminal family..read their traitorous roots ..blue blooded criminals and they have all these fancy weapons to use..
and many fascist amerikans will cheer these treason on ..get them liberals....
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