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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:25 AM
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David Corn sorta lauds bush speech while condenming Dem repsonse
Corn of Nation mag offers some type of praise for bush speech even says jr won the election cuz he is so macho...Either I am very confused or Corn is soft peddlin porn??

"Whether speaking about the Iraq war, gay marriage or Social Security, in his State of the Union the president re-affirmed that he does not reside in a reality-based community.

This president does not back down. Perhaps that's why he won in November

Bush's speech was a success - for him, that is, not the Union. After all, the State of Bush is just fine. He clearly loves being a crusader for freedom

Which brings us to the Democratic response. It was middling at best, perhaps awful"




http://www.rense.com/general62/stsb.htm
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:27 AM
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1. David Corn is a semi-sellout.
I'm sorry I can't post links or quotes but I have noticed this over the last few months.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:30 AM
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2. Is he a sell out or is he pointing out the Bush's abilities to...
decieve the masses?

I'd hate to think that The Nation has a Bush apologist at the helm.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:42 AM
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4. Nation has been less than critical of bush..
and more like get over it and kinda blaming us dem activists for kerry loss..corn dismissed Olieo recount as fanatsy I do concur that bushfraud is skilled in the arts of deception like his soulmate and hero dolph h.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:24 AM
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8. Uh, Oh well - maybe we do love Big Brother after all. /eom
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:05 AM
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12. Certainly you cannot be serious!
I'm a subscriber to The Nation, and I find them to be nothing but scathing toward Bush. And any issues they take with the Democrats revolve primarily around their relative spinelessness and ineptitude. Quite often, they call for the Dems to adopt and tirelessly advocate a more progressive agenda.

I'd like for you to cite examples to back up your claim, because I haven't seen it since I've been reading The Nation.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:00 PM
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14. I agree with your assessment of the Nation -- nothing I've read in it
suggests that anyone is apologetic toward Bush -- but it does sometimes take true aim at the spinelessness of the Dems.

That David Corn accurately talks about perceived strengths of Bush and the weakness of the Dems shouldn't put him on the hit list -- accurate analysis should be applauded even when it tells us what we don't want to hear.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:43 AM
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5. I'm thinking a sell-out, too
I've just read too many things written by him that I disagreed with. After reading his book ("The Lies of *), how he could in any way, say any thing, that even sort of compliments the chimp is pretty odd. He's also pointing out bushits abilities to deceive the masses, but he's pointing it out as a good thing. Do we want our candidates to deceive the masses?
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:08 AM
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13. You're completely missing his point!
He's not advocating that Dems willfully deceive the masses the way that the Radical Republicans do. Rather, he's focusing on the way that the Republicans are adept at making naked emotional appeals, while the Democrats continually flail about cluelessly, trying to make appeals to reason to overcome appeals to emotion.

If anything, he's calling on the Democrats to make more appeals to emotion to advance their line.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:50 PM
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16. Yes...missing the point...n/t
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:42 AM
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3. just recently, someone penned "A Mole in the Progressive Movement?"
re David Corn

~snip~
Just recently, in an article in The Nation, David Corn had tried to discredit Greg Palast's (the award-winning investigative reporter - http://www.GregPalast.com) claims of fraud in the 2004 presidential elections.
~snip~

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/012505_mole_movement.shtml
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:56 AM
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6. Great article bout corn..and my bet is now sell-out..
but I also heard very negative stuff about ruppert being a sell-out at rense site and the discussion was more than heated...
Tough to find truth in the age of bushvaekian lies..My bet is still corn is repuke operative like Schrum like DNC
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:03 AM
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10. Paid Republican stooges....
Most of us have learned to ignore it.

Some stooges even post here for a while. Eventually, they're tombstoned.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:38 AM
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9. Read this article of his on the SOTU
I thought it was very good.:shrug:

The State Of George W. Bush
http://www.alternet.org/story/21167

Whether speaking about the Iraq war, gay marriage or Social Security, in his State of the Union the president re-affirmed that he does not reside in a reality-based community.
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TabulaRasa Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:47 AM
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11. For the love of God, he works for Fox News
And he actually calls them "fair and balanced". Of course, he's a sellout. I must confess, I've always hated the guy. I've never trusted the "centrists" at the Nation ... Corn, Cooper and Alterman. They seem more concerned with their own "respectability" than standing up for what's right. And of course, though Hitchens wasn't a "centrist" while he worked at the Nation, he's obviously a gigantic piece of shit as well. I should add that working at Fox News doesn't automatically make someone a whore. Jeff Cohen, founder of Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting used to work on the show Fox News Watch. He's certainly a good guy. Though he never called Fox News "fair and balanced". In fact, he was calling them a right-wing propaganda outlet even when he was working for them.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:05 PM
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15. Eric Alterman is no "Sell Out." And, as much as I find stuff to disagree
with in what Corn writes and have been very angry with him, I don't think he's a "sell out" either. Do you know what abuse they must suffer? The hate mail, the ridicule when they appear anywhere. The fact that they know they are the "token" voice when they appear shouted down by two conservatives to one "liberal?"

Think about the real "sell outs" in the MSM. Think about the guys writing for the New Republic under the guise of being a "moderate" or Democratically inclined voice. Chait, Beinart and that other one I can't think of now. Look at Howie Kurtz,(Mr. "double hat") Andrew Sullivan and others who would sell their soul to the devil just to keep folks reading them.

We have a long list of those claiming to not be Conservative Repugs or claiming to be non-biased (David Broder, WaPo) who have sold the country down the river to keep their jobs.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 03:24 AM
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17. For what it's worth, Andrew Sullivan voted for Kerry
But I agree. There are too few in the MSM who are willing to speak out. But is it any surprise? Dan Rather, when he was interviewed on Greg Palast's BBC show, "Newsnight," said that any American journalist who reported certain stories would be "necklaced," an apartheid term in which a burning tire was placed around someone's neck. Well, Dan reported one of those stories, and what happened to him sure looks like a case of "necklacing" to me.
:scared:
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