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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:34 AM
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Bradley crew's shift: 19 hours in Fallujah shooting gallery
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/chitribt...

After nearly 18 hours in the claustrophobic urban canyons that constitute the front lines of the battle for Fallujah, the crew of the lead Bradley Fighting Vehicle was cramped, weary and low on ammunition.

Then they came under heavy enemy fire for the first time all week.

Within 15 minutes, as shooting erupted around them, their radio crackled with the news that their company commander's vehicle, blocks behind them, had been hit by a rocket-propelled grenade. The blast killed an interpreter and severed a soldier's arm. A Bradley that sped to the rescue was hit by another RPG that slipped under its high-tech armor, wounding the driver.

A block away, they heard the boom as a third rocket from insurgents took out the transmission on a huge Abrams tank. The tank's turret wouldn't move. Nor could the tank drive in reverse or pivot.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:36 AM
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1. SWATING A BEES NEST WITH A CRICKET BAT, BLIND FOLDED.
Yikes
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:42 AM
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2. saddam ,where ever he is must be smiling, cause
this is what he planned for urban warfare-suck the us forces into the cities.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:03 PM
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22. I.m sure Saddams body double is smiling from prison.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:53 AM
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3. Low on ammo and hadn't been attacked all week?
What were they shooting at, I wonder? Or did they go into combat without proper equipment? Darn that John Kerry!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:54 AM
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4. also from your link
"I'm hit!" Alpha Company's commander, Capt. Ed Twaddell, shouted over the radio at 11:43. The armor-penetrating RPG punched a half-dollar-size hole in his Bradley's back gate, then filled the troop compartment with light, noise, gore and flying metal before lodging in the turret where he was standing.

"I saw light and a flash down by my knee, and then the turret filled with smoke," Twaddell said later, his face still covered in soot and dust.

His interpreter, sitting behind him, had been killed instantly, a baseball-size gash in his side.

Two blocks north of Alpha 2-1, a Bradley maneuvered to help, disgorging a medic and soldiers under a hail of gunfire. Within minutes a penetrating RPG exploded under the second Bradley's driver compartment, wounding a man from West Virginia who had survived RPG shrapnel to the neck when his Bradley was hit in Najaf.


more progress :(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 12:24 PM
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:03 PM
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6. I'm sure they appreciate your concern.
With insightful commentary like yours, its amazing that more troops don't vote Democratic.

Your compassion is remarkable.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:05 PM
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:08 PM
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12. Huh?
I don't follow.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:22 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:55 PM
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livinbella Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:21 PM
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17. barring access to the Red Cross is the ultimate in cowardice!
Those who stand and watch are as guilty as those who
commit the deed.
Who do you think you are defending here?
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:35 PM
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19. Again...huh?
Who is asking you to approve of actions like this? No one is suggesting that our troops should be unnacountable, or are somehow morally spotless in every situation.

Who do you think you're attacking here?
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livinbella Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:09 PM
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13. The mindless slaughter of civilians is neither brave nor patriotic
let us call a beast a beast
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:20 PM
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16. Who is suggesting that it is?
You set up a straw man with that statement.

Is anyone asking you to approve of the mindless slaughter of civilians? Nope. Is anyone asking you to approve of the war in general? Nope.

You're just being asked to not place blame on the people that are in this situation because WE failed them. That isn't a lot to ask, in my opinion.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:51 PM
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21. morality
The personal morality of what a soldier does, or doesn't do, has nothing to do with you, me, or the leaders we provide.


It is his, and his alone.

Ultimately, each soldier is responsible for their own actions... regardless of what they have been told to do by superiors.
If a soldier chooses to abdicate responsibility to superiors, that does not absolve them of guilt.

This concept was argued extensively in the Nuremberg trials.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:17 PM
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23. You impart ancient knowledge
Even in Shakespeare's Henry V such a view is put forward by the king. "Every subject's duty is the king's but every subject's soul's his own."

It's true, each person's morality is their own responsibilty.

Julie
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:11 PM
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14. Yep, you got it. You'll get flamed and so will I, but fuck it.
:grr:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:58 PM
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9. wow! another month like this one....
and that draft will happen before chimpy*s coronation!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:23 PM
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18. WARNING
as posted before.

Any post advocating harm to the United States troops, or wishing them harm or ill fortune will be deleted.

Discuss this topic in a mature and thoughtful manner please.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:41 PM
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20. Thank God!
:eyes: for some the things spoken here.
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