CIA in turmoil under Goss

[BeyondThePale]

Deputy Chief Resigns From CIA
Agency Is Said to Be in Turmoil Under New Director Goss

By Dana Priest and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, November 13, 2004; Page A01

The deputy director of the CIA resigned yesterday after a series of confrontations over the past week between senior operations officials and CIA Director Porter J. Goss's new chief of staff that have left the agency in turmoil, according to several current and former CIA officials.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46580-20...

Now here is a real surprise!!!

[aquart]

1. The purges begin.

How do pissed off CIA agents get even?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. They leak...

The good stuff. Really good stuff. The stuff that leads to indictments. And other things.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. Only two presidents before the Little Dictator tried to buck the CIA...

....and neither finished their current terms. They were JFK and Nixon.

The rank-and-file is getting tired of waiting.

Think about it.

[nashville_brook]

2. Bush's reign will be nasty, brutish and short

Religion with a capital R and Belief with a capital B in what priests tell you are a terrible things. The promise of Eternal Paradise in Heaven, if believed, upsets the rational calculus by which a man scared of violent death and desirous of commodious living signs the Social Contract and bends his neck to the Sovereign Leviathan. Thus religious fanaticism--in Hobbes's case the Roundheads who shot out the stained-glass windows of Canterbury Cathedral for target practice, or the followers of Archbishop Laud who were willing to kill to move the communion table up to the back of the church--breeds large-scale death and destruction.

-- Hobbes, On Imperial Hubris long before Anonymous

[KoKo]

3. Another appointment where Bush got exactly who he wanted by our

Spinless Senate. They knew...We knew..but as usual they give the Chimp everything. He will never get enough rope to hang himself but he will see us all go down.

[roguevalley]

5. we're all going to die. if they can't focus, we're going to get hit

again. that nazi Goss will gut them and purge them and demote them. They need to gather together and go public. tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may. the security of our nation is at stake. The CIA guy named anonymous who wrote that book is resigning after 22 years and will be on the tube over the next few days. watch for him.

[0rganism]

6. Well, Goss DID say he wasn't up to being in the CIA these days

Now we know why.

It's out of our hands now. Let's just sit back and watch the show, and hope the next terrorist attack is in one of the red states.

[peacetalksforall]

7. Yah Hoo! Who's going to tame whom?

How dare professional career agents stand up to a politician and the politician's chief of staff. How dare they say 'well, this is how we did in in the House of Representatives!'.

[autorank]

8. OK, so when are these guys going to do something about it?

Quitting, well that's just great. An opportunity for Goss to put in a puppet. Why don't these guys release some of the stuff I've seen, like the picture of Goss with frigging Bobby Seal. I mean, seriously, what are they waiting for?

Corporate America controls the media and we get manufactured news.
Corporate America now controls the voting machines and we get manufactured elections.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org /

[MSgt213]

9. The incompetence of these people seems to rise to high never before

thought attainable. Yet people cheer on this administration like they can't wait to go down with the ship.

[lovuian]

10. Bush is destroying the CIA !!! Good News is He doesn't trust them

so they are Useless to him!!!

[alfredo]

11. Goss did say he didn't care about the Plame case, but

if you gave him a blue dress, then they will have an investigation.

[Rose Siding]

12. dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[asjr]

13. The men and women at the CIA have the power

to bring this administration down. Why won't they do it?

[jefferson_dem]

14. This Murray dude seems like quite the 'sum bitch'

When do you know things are not good? Well here's an exemplary passage -

...

Yesterday, Murray told the associate deputy director of counterintelligence that if anything in the newly appointed executive director's personnel file made it into the media, the counterintelligence official "would be held responsible," according to one agency official and two former colleagues with knowledge of the conversation.

...

[Thurston Howell IV]

15. Goss sux

and the chickens will come home to roost within the next 2 years.

[Pierre Trudeau]

17. so that's why Sy Hersh's phone is busy

... I haven't been able to get through all day.

[teryang]

18. Every federal institution has to submit to total power

I wouldn't get all dewy eyed about the CIA. The problem it presents to the Pentagon neo-cons is that it is an independent source of power as an institution. Goss thinks he's going to become some sort of player by selling out the agency. He's dreaming as so many Brownshirts did during Hitler's rise. Not that he won't succeed in reducing the agency's stature. His very appointment does that because he is incompetent at everything except covering up treason and blunders. With this administration covering up such matters is a full time job.

The agency played a role in 911, and it's performance has been all but diastrous in Iraq. Nevertheless, it represents something still that can't be completely subdued by the Pentagon war profiteering management as the center of total power. Therefore, it will be beaten into subservience. It's prior lack of responsiveness was viewed as a rightest trojan horse in democratic administrations. Now it's characteristically unconstitutional off budget independence is regarded as a threat to those who seek total power.

[Moderator]

19. Duplicate and headline

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Your subject line should read exactly as the news headline.