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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:04 PM
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Helpers to Get Seat at Table, Rumsfeld Says


Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Wednesday night that countries that contribute troops and financial support to American-led military and reconstruction operations in Iraq could count on a seat at the table in decision making about the mission there.

In laying out American goals for new troop contributions, Mr. Rumsfeld said the United States hoped to persuade other countries to provide about 20,000 troops to supplement a force in Iraq and Kuwait that currently numbers only 21,000 non- American forces.

Mr. Rumsfeld insisted that the administration's decision to encourage the United Nations to authorize a military force in Iraq in the hope of prompting other countries to contribute to the operation did not reflect a change of strategy. He noted that 29 countries other than the United States were already taking part, and said it was wrong for critics to portray the operation as having been a unilateral one.

But the fresh signal of willingness to share some decision making appeared to reflect a new flexibility on the part of the administration, although it did not appear to depart from the administration's insistence that final authority in Iraq remain in American hands. ---

Banish bush From Texas Too
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:05 PM
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1. What "table"? The table of doom?
Right, like that is ever going to happen.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:00 AM
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32. THE TABLE AT WHICH YOU CAN EAT LIKE A PIG
And later admire your Porcine figure, after belching loudly.

Bring a large wallet, a purse or one of those brown bags with handles on it, in which to cart off your loot.


A Swiss account for a direct wire transfer works good too !!!!!
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:07 PM
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2. No,
Helpers to get cheated and abandoned.
Why should they be like anyone else who has
partnered with *.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:09 PM
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3. I hope France and Germany make him apologize and eat a turd
sandwich on the UN floor !
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:09 PM
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4. Yes, you, too, can have a seat at the table
That would be the table in a room down the hall, where you can sit with everyone else the mighty bushco doesn't care to listen to. Just send a few thousand of your country's citizens to die, & your seat will be reserved./sarcasm
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:10 PM
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5. Of course, the US will hold 51% of the seats at the table...
but others are free to contribute their money, troops and opinions...
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:12 PM
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6. The more who join .. then that is less who can throw stones at them
for criminal prosecution! When you're going down...take as many with you as you can! (Not my motto, but I'm sure it's there's!)
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:15 PM
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7. rummy should have the seat pulled out from under him
"it was wrong for critics to portray the operation as having been a unilateral one" - give me a break. it looks like a unilateral duck, it talks like a unilateral duck... whoomp! there it is, a unilateral duck.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:16 PM
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8. a seat at the table?
what an arrogant reptile Rummy is. :-(
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 01:22 AM
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21. ...And notice his "subtle" use...
...of a religious metaphor: I.e., a seat at *god's* table. Let's all sit down to the last supper, shall we?
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:50 AM
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22. Reptile, eh?
Exxxxxcellent. Second lizard reference I have seen on DU today! I have long been waiting for others to awaken to the possibility that some of our Maximum Leaders may not be exactly human.

:evilgrin:
dbt
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:18 PM
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9. sounds like a folding chair
and a potluck. Good luck.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:19 PM
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10. Translation
Translation from bull**** to plain english = we are losing our asses on this deal. The CIA has just informed us there is no way we can win. We got in over our heads.

Now we would like to make a deal with you. Ante up, put your chips on the table. Show us your $$$ and we'll let you know what we will be offering. This country is ours, fair and square.

We know we're acting like hard-asses, but that's just part of the game. We don't want you to realize how desperate we really are; don't look at the sweat rings under our armpits.

care to make a deal?
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:22 PM
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11. And of course Rumsfeld can Play lets MAKE A DEAL!
Who the Hell is running this country!
:wtf:
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:22 PM
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12. Tell me this is a fucking joke….
We have a real country with real people with real concerns about their future and Rummy is treating the issue as if it were a stinkin’ commodity for trade. Just how low can these critters get?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:29 PM
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13. france may
if they get what they want. germany and russia no. india may go along with pakistan. bengaldesh will go..that`s about it....
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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:34 PM
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14. Oh, yeah, sure. . .
anybody that's ever been to a family holiday dinner knows all about the "kids" table which is all Rum-snot would offer them. I betcha they have to clear it too.

eileen from OH
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:37 PM
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15. Banquet table to Feast on the carcass of Iraq!
"Welcome my friends to the show that never ends, gather 'round, gather 'round...."
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:54 PM
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16. why would anyone trust Rummy?
This administration consistently plays bait and switch.

Why would ANYONE enter into an agreement with them?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:59 PM
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17. And if Bushco says it, you can take it to the bank.
Of course, American currency is collapsing, but don't let that worry you.

And the Arabs keep blowing up the oil and anything else they don't like. But don't let that worry you.

Come and die subservient to the Americans! Who can resist such an offer?
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 12:09 AM
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18. We need those countries WAY more than they need us. If I were
the head of one of those countries, I'd tell us "No Deal unless the UN is in control and the country is open to all countries for business opportunities. If you don't like it, Fuck Off!"

Bush, Rumsfeld and the neocons got us into this mess. They will eat a lot of French crow, cheese and wine before this is over.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 12:40 AM
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19. Sure, Rummy! But first. . .
would you like a little "Freedom Crow" to eat with that Shit Sandwich you've got there?
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 01:07 AM
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20. At the table, we shall partake of freedom fries
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 06:04 AM
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23. Only non-english speaking folks
go along with Rummy's bullshit.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 06:09 AM
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24. The whole world knows this is 'Bush's* war'...
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 06:09 AM by Q
...and that the Bushies snubbed the UN and other countries in disagreement with their 'preemptive strike' doctrine.

- Now the Bushies are saying that it wasn't unilateral? It means nothing that they were able to intimidate/bribe a few countries into signing on to this madness.

- The Bushies need to apologize and admit they were wrong to ignore the opinions and warnings of the majority and then illegally invade Iraq.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 06:48 AM
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25. Every Board of Directors ...
... has its window mannequins. Same ol', same ol'. :eyes:
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:41 AM
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26. Eagles Say It Best
Mirrors on the ceiling
Pink champagne on ice
And she said
We are all just prisoners here
Of our own device
And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives
But they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
Relax said the nightman
We are programed to recieve
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave

Isn't fair use grand!
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:58 AM
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27. There's a saying in Slovak. I'm sure they'll tell Scumsfeld:
"Don't play with shit. It stinks."

WTF do they want a goddam seat for???
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:07 AM
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28. Remember when you sat at Saddam's table, Rummy?

And will Iraq be sitting at that table, too? What role will THEY play inthe decision making?


rocknation


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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:00 AM
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29. I can see France and Germany running as we type...
Essentially, Rummy is saying that he is willing to forgive the French and German governments for being accurate. They are now perfectly able to buy a seat at the lying liar table, with the lives of the citizens they didn't want to send to an unjust war in the first place.

The only way that countries will send more troops is if they recognize the quagmire that Bush has created.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:08 AM
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30. That is the most arrogant statement I've heard......!!!!!!
"A seat at the table"....I heard Powell use the same statement yesterday and felt like smashing the TV. So this is the current spin coming out of this despicable administration. I can't honestly see how any country would want to help the US on Iraq or any other issue with these as..... in charge. These people just make me furious!!!!
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:56 AM
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31. I think he meant to say trough...
eom
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