French Paper says Arafat Dead

[Red State Rebel]

http://www.proche-orient.info/

The article is in french, I can make out the headline but don't know enough french to get the rest....

[leftyandproud]

1. oh damn

[qanda]

2. I heard about this a couple of hours ago

They source was Israeli intelligence and so it's probably true.

[ET Awful]

11. Because Israeli intelligence always tells the truth.

They may be right this time, but saying you believe it because they said it is about as realistic as believing something because Karl Rove said it.

[Skidmore]

3. Well, my guess is someone

really worked to get him out of the way.

[jtb33]

I seriously doubt that...

He's old, and his demise has been gradual until recently.

[ismnotwasm]

4. oh oh

I saw him on the news, and I couldn't believe how bad he looked.

[slappypan]

5. Le Monds still says critical condition

http://www.lemonde.fr/

[lil-petunia]

6. wow.

When I read that he was poisoned, I thought he was a goner.

Now, with him gone, will there be bloodshed and battles internally? or will they take a step back to the prior agreements?

an opportunity, or a disaster. Both equally likely.

[schyzo-nas]

7. They're quoting

an anonymous source that said that the doctors were questionning themselves whether they should keep Yasser Arafat atficially alive or let him die today.

[liberalitch]

9. set him free.... for christ's sake...

Poor old guy!
word to his family

[Flagg]

8. Arafat's Death = Chirac's allegiance and pennance to W.

[schrodinger_I]

10. Then it is a good day

Perhaps we will now get some work done on the Peace process.

[ret5hd]

14. what, you expect capitulation...

and an exodus of palestinians to foreign soil simply because one man died?

[rooboy]

16. Yeah, you Likudniks are real partners for peace. n/t

[beniciodeltoro]

31. WOW!you voted for Bush and thought that up in the same week!

[lilymidnite]

12. "Will be dead any moment"

is the headline

[emad]

13. Mystery virus: is it Aids?

Seem to remember a story last year speculating that Yasser was full-blown HIV positive and deteriorating rapidly???????????????

[reprobate]

15. Or is it CIA?

[daleo]

17. 75 year olds often die of something called natural causes

I have witnessed this myself.

[reprobate]

29. Of course. I forgot I was wearing my tin foil it just fits so well

[Minstrel Boy]

21. John Loftus apparantly claims this.

I say that second hand. I haven't heard Loftus say it myself, but I was told that last week he made this claim in a radio interview.

[Warpy]

39. Unlikely

He had a full medical setup at his compound. He would have access to all the latest forms of the AIDS cocktail. There is no reason for him to succumb this quickly if it is AIDS.

[jetsprite]

18. French Translation

He is not dead yet - according to the french article - but he is on life-support.

[lonewolf0507]

19. The article states:

That he is very grave condition, only being kept alive by machines and that they are discussing when or if to pull the plug. If the plug is pulled he will die.

[yellowcanine]

20. Well he is in a coma and death usually follows. Stands to reason.

[rawstory]

22. Can anyone post full translation?

thanks.

[grumpy old fart]

23. Wouldn't Hurt

There really isn't much downside to this. Dude needs to die for anything to change, and croaking from natural causes will keep the revenge factor out.

[chookie]

26. It will be as helpful as the capture of Saddam Hussein

Yeah -- Condi said the "insurgency" was nothing but Saddam loyalists.

The Americans killed his sons just like the Bolsheviks killed the Romanovs -- to destroy the line.

Then, when Saddam was captured, Iraq exploded into even greater violence, and were not ready to kiss the hands of George Bush and Tony Blair and thank them for the invasion.

I guess it must be fun to have the temporary peace of mind that all will be well in Israel/Palestine when Arafat, in your words, "croaks." I guess the meme is that the Palestinians have been waiting for a leader who will have the wisdom to understand the Israelis want the very best for them.

But before you celebrate the old "Dude's" "croaking" -- you might just want to consider the possibiity that things are going to get a lot worse when Arafat dies, and your idea that they will be kissing Sharon's hand and leaving their homes as beggars to the people God himself gave the land to might very well be wishful thinking.

Of course, this is what the Israelis and NeoConservatives have been rubbing their hands in glee about for years now -- a reason to "crack down" on these "terrorists", who hate freedom and democracy presumably, and obliterate them.

Anyway -- have fun and enjoy yourself.

[grumpy old fart]

30. Yikes

"your idea that they will be kissing Sharon's hand and
leaving their homes as beggars to the people God himself gave
the land to might very well be wishful thinking."

Did I say all that?  I don't think so.  The point is that
Arafat is not doing anyone any good, and no one is going to
come forward to lead the Palestinians to statehood while he's
alive.  He would never accept any proposal but the return of
his people to Palestine and the end of Israel.  Not too
reality based.   

[wordout]

24. put a rush order on that " 7 " plan fellas!

"The window for the two-state solution is closing fast", says the paper, recommending that the EU present a series of measures to the US administration soon after the elections.

http://www.euobserver.com/?sid=9&aid=17673

Window closing fast = Arafat dying?

Lemmeesee. The EU's 7 plan was made public 11-1 + add 6 days(number of man) = He'll be killed or die on Nov 7th

[hippiechick]

25. Just head on DeutscheWelle radio that he's dead. n/t

[napi21]

27. Here's a translated version of the site.

The biography of the president of the Palestinian Authority, owner of Fatah, chief of the PLO, Palestinian nationalist leader, Nobel Prize of peace, terrorist.


URGENT - the president of the French Republic has just gone to the Percy hospital
Chirac with the bedside of Arafat : the good-bye with one dying

Last minute - According to a French medical source
Arafat " with most badly " : in the coma and intubé in an intensive care unit

[Minstrel Boy]

28. Palestinian Leader Yasser Arafat Dies - Deutsche Welle story link

Palestinian Leader Yasser Arafat Dies

Yasser Arafat has died at the age of 75 after failing to be revived from the coma he slipped into on Wednesday at the French military hospital where he was being treated for an undiagnosed blood and digestive disorder.



Yasser Arafat, the 75 year-old Palestinian leader, has died in the intensive care department of the French military hospital where he was being treated for an unknown illness.



The frail head of the Palestinian Authority arrived in Paris last week after losing consciousness briefly at his West Bank headquarters. Arafat was at first said to have been suffering from a severe case of influenza, but was later diagnosed as having blood abnormalities and trouble with digestion.



Palestinian officials then ran tests for leukemia but the cancer was ruled out, and doctors remained uncertain what was causing his illness. Arafat's condition worsened three days ago and he slipped into a coma on Wednesday.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1385027,00.html

[beniciodeltoro]

32. He will be sorely missed

[grumpy old fart]

33. By Whom?

Other than assisting the Israelis in keeping his people in poverty and perpetual war, what has he done?

[JustUsToo]

37. Well...

He has kept a lot of swiss bankers in work...It costs money to keep them quite..

[Catherine Vincent]

34. AAR says he's not dead yet.

[htuttle]

35. This just in....

Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat is still dying.



ps. Just heard on AAR that French doctors deny that he's dead yet. He's apparently just pining for the fjords.

[grumpy old fart]

38. lol

I was just thinking the same thing.

[Chimpeach]

36. You won't see this on a U.S. news site

Too interested in talking about the Shrub's victory.

[alexisfree]

40. if Kerry elected we will have the .....

opportunity to learned French and know what is the rest of the world thinking....

[Moderator]

41. Locking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x957308