Kerry Campaign Blows Up at Fox, Threatens to Throw Fox Off Plane

[kskiska]

KERRY CAMPAIGN BLOWS UP AT FOX, THREATENS TO THROW FOX OFF THE PLANE, BACKS OFF

KERRY CAMP OBJECTS TO 4:00pm FOX NEWS SEGMENT:

ALAN COLMES: "It's not like he (Osama bin Laden) had a Kerry-Edward bumper sticker in his cave."

NEIL CAVUTO: "But he's all but doing that, isn't he? I thought I saw a button."

KERRY CAMP ASKS FOR RETRACTION, DOES NOT GET ONE… JOHN SASSO BLOWS UP AT FOX PRODUCER ON PLANE: "Is that the one? Is that her? I want her off the plane tomorrow. I'm not kidding."

COMM. DIR. STEPHANIE CUTTER BACKTRACKS: "He (Sasso) was wrong to say that. We jumped all over him for it."

more…
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/NotedNow/story?id=156246

[chiffon]

1. Now, let's play Hardball.

A fox, well hell. Where are dem dere wolves?

[nibbana]

90. Let us select 1 advertiser at a time and go after Fox...DU could

coordinate this action....

[crossroads]

135. Great idea!

Count me in!
:bounce:

[bostonbabs]

136. yes....hit them where it hurts!

[Mr_Spock]

151. Awesome idea - we have seen what we can do if we want to

I don't know why we let Faux exist actually, we could likely take them out if we wanted to - if they had NO Democratic audience, they would in turn have no credibility (well, you know what I mean). It's the average couch potato who needs just a little propting and information to make them take action against Faux. We really should take them down...

[darkSol]

2. I say screw them...

Throw them off the plane - deny them all access to the campaign.

I know it's not possible but this is completely over-the-line.

Kerry in a landslide!

[ima_sinnic]

8. welcome to DU, darkSol!

and I agree 1000%!

:hi:

[Nordic]

9. Yeah, start NOW by taking away Fox's access to the presidency

they are scum and they do not deserve it.

Why wait?

[wackywill]

60. Jan 20th 2005

PM: Good-bye Fox....payback time Repugs

[Sinnerman]

63. 72 Hours and counting.........

Can you feel it....... Can you reallt feel it.......
"Operation American Freedom"

[NicRic]

68. Agree , Good Bye !

I would not blame them for throwing FOX off the plane. If anything just having them around is like having a spy amoung you. As hard as all of Kerry's team is working to ensure a Kerry win ,its only human that their frustrations at FOX's obvious right wing spin on everything they report would be hard to ignore. It turn ,of course you are going to take out these frustrations on one of their "reporters" hanging out ,trying to get some kind of dirt to report. I say put a parachute of this reporter, and drop them off over Iraq , so they can see what their guys war has done to that country !

[KansDem]

184. Man! What a waste of a good parachute!

I say put a parachute of this reporter, and drop them off over Iraq , so they can see what their guys war has done to that country !
;)

[chiffon]

10. Welcome to DU!

[Carolab]

17. Why ISN'T it possible?

They deny US access and balanced news--screw 'em. THROW THE BAGGAGE OUT WITHOUT A CHUTE!

[LiberalFighter]

101. Is FOX a member of RTNDA?

CODE OF ETHICS AND PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT RADIO-TELEVISION NEWS DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION


How to Distinguish Between Socially Responsible and Junk Journalism


I tried looking but could not find whether the networks have a code of ethics on their websites. I checked ABC, CBS, NBC or FOX

[UCLA Dem]

28. welcome to DU!!

:bounce:

[Devils Advocate NZ]

45. Why is it not possible?

Hell why stop there? I say that after Kerry is elected, Fox should be banned from ALL government press briefings.

Let them stand outside moaning about how unfair it all is.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

53. I like it....... and so it should be..... heh, heh, heh.... n/t

[OldLeftieLawyer]

155. Fox isn't a news outfit

They're nothing but rightwingnut entertainment. They don't report news - they make up crap and call it "news."

I say throw them off the plane.

At 35,000 feet.

[Bossy Monkey]

49. darkSol: Don't wait another year before your SECOND post!

An incredibly late welcome!:D :hi:

[The Backlash Cometh]

54. Yeah, throw Fox off the plane, preferrably while it's still in flight.

I'm glad the campaign person had the blow-up. What Fox said was outrageous and it deserved an equal response.

Now, that said and done, keep the Fox person on the crew, but let them know that irresponsible reporting is not appreciated.

[Chimpanzee]

95. BEST OF ALL

When Kerry is POTUS, at each and every news conference (and he'll give alot of them) NEVER - EVER - call on a Fox reporter.

Such sweet revenge!

[RaleighNCDUer]

106. It's no more than * has been doing for years -- anybody gives him

bad press and they're off the bus, frozen out of press conferences. We should give them a little of the same.

[auntAgonist]

116. does the plane have to land first? n/t :)

[bettyellen]

152. welcome to DU, KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE!!!

:toast: :bounce: :toast:

[ashling]

186. . . . at 20,000 feet . . .

:evilgrin:

[Lefty48197]

3. toss her out the window

while at cruising altitude

[Name removed]

35. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Chimpanzee]

99. Tell her to remove her bra first

Hold on to the straps and us it as a parachute - hopefully she has A cups.

[IdaBriggs]

4. Why did they back down? I think it would have been LOVELY! nt

[TaleWgnDg]

5. If you use brackets in a DU post, it makes that portion within the

brackets disappear . . .

The first line of quotes should read:

KERRY CAMP OBJECTS TO 4:00pm FOX NEWS SEGMENT: ALAN COLMES: "It's not like he (Osama bin Laden) had a Kerry-Edward bumper sticker in his cave." NEIL CAVUTO: "But he's all but doing that, isn't he? I thought I saw a button." (etc.)


. . . . . .



.

[kskiska]

13. Thanks.

Posted in a hurry and didn't notice.

[fugue]

71. You can use square brackets. I do all the time.

See Sizzling HTML Jalfreezi's list of character codes.

Keep in mind that if you preview, you'll have to use the back button to make any changes because the codes will get converted to characters in your post's text and then disappear in the final post. If you're careful about that, you can use square brackets wherever they're appropriate.

I grant that's one of the reasons I prefer real HTML to all the variants of that use square brackets. Brackets have many more uses in writing than angle brackets do; in fact when editing on screen, copyeditors use angle brackets for comments because the typesetting software screens them out.

But that's always been how I've felt about DU. Love the place, love the people . . . hate the software. ^_^

[UTUSN]

104. This Is Either Cool or Self-Delete

¢ £ § © ® ° ¼ ¿ Ø



On Edit: The verdict is: COOL!!!! Thanks.

[fugue]

124. Glad to help. ^_^ n/t

[UTUSN]

138. Posted Your Link in The Meeting Room

where SoCalDem has threads on HTML tips: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=111x38739

Thanks AGAIN!

[fugue]

149. Thanks for moving it!

I didn't know that's where I should post things like this.

[Sannum]

6. They should throw them off the plane

And they should throw them out of the Pressroom when they get to the WH. And restore Helen Thomas to front row center.

[TaleWgnDg]

157. geesh. I miss Helen Thomas in the front row as well . . . it seems

these mirrors in the front row merely, well, mirror whitehouse rhetoric . . . nobody's got a damn backbone anymore.



. . . . . . . . . . .

.

[joewill]

163. Well maybe not Helen

Guys,

I know Helen is on our side, but could we please insert someone that is at least pleasant to look at. Maybe we can get Jeanne Garafalo (hope I spelled her name right) into the press corp.

We have so many good looking women, and the swine on the right only listen to those that look good. By substituting a sexy woman the cavemen will listen and some will leave their brainwashed world behind.

[unblock]

7. they just can't stand it when democrats act like republicans

but they admire it when republicans do it....

[Rose Siding]

11. Breeze it, buzz it, easy does it

Turn off the juice, boy
Just play it cool, boy
Real cool

*finger snapping and sharp guy dancing sequence*

Actually, this looks like a very human reaction motivated by loyalty.

[henslee]

131. show tunes?!. Egad!

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

12. F'em...it's time to kick some Faux ass. No more nice guy shit.

They want to play dirty...that's fine, but we don't have to facilitate their bullshit. Throw their asses off the plane. Revoke all their passes to events, and shut them out of any interviews or other campaign media offerings.

JB

[chiffon]

18. Now, let's play Toughball.

I like your venom.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

27. Venom? It's only logical to exclude "opinion" media and keep real news

Faux has proven themselves to be nothing but "opinion Repuke bullshit," and I don't think it would be a stretch for the Kerry campaign to require that press admission to their events be limited to real news outlets. Faux will whine and cry about their exclusion and will probably only redouble their efforts to slant the election towards Shrub, but in the end if people are watching Faux as their news source...they're lost to us anyway.

Kerry campaign. Why waste your time trying to capture the dumbass lemming Repuke Faux viewers?? F'em.

JB

[chiffon]

30. hmmmm. not sure of how or whom you are directing your comments to:

i just liked the "passion" 0f your post (done),...

[Voltaire99]

32. I agree. This is what Kerry should do in the White House, too. (n/t)

[LiberalFighter]

92. REAL news outlets!!!! Absolutely

And it should wait until Kerry is declared the President.

Not to worry about reaching the dumbass lemming Repuke Faux viewers... they have the option of turning to ABC, CBS or NBC. Or even reading the papers.

[joewill]

167. Papers are not an option

The Repugs can't read a paper, they forgot to fund No Child Left Behind.

[fugue]

72. That's right!

They're not the press. They're the PR division of the Republican Party.

Press credentials should be revokable upon evidence that the holder blatantly lies.

[CottonBear]

14. Cavuto is an ass.

[joewill]

164. Our friends at PETA won't like that comparison

Cavuto is many things, but calling him an ass is an offense to many barnyard animals. I know that we can think of many more original comparisons for him (although for a faux guy he is kind of cute), but he needs to leave his glasses on.

[Anakin Skywalker]

166. OK. How about....

calling Neil Cavuto an a$$hole then! :) Yes, I typed the dollar signs on purpose. Cavuto and all his viewers worship Mammon.

[Carolab]

15. God what juvenalia

These bloodsuckers are the kids who said the dog ate their homework...and now they think they can say ANYTHING.

SHOVE IT FAUX NEWS!!! Let's see how long you have a job when Kerry is president!

[Cyrix]

16. Nothing new

Seriously, this shouldn't be a surprise with FOX.

The campaign should just say nothing. It will just give them ammo for hit articles.

All we need to do is ride the current good numbers to election day. No need to rock the boat and risk screwing it up over some petty FOX conflict.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

55. Fox News if you can call it that.... has enough of its own internal

problems... you can do wrong for only so long... and this is the result.

www.outfoxed.org

http://www.outfoxed.org/letters.php

>>From an anonymous current Fox News employee:

So I just watched your DVD, which I bought about 2 wks ago on the internet, and well.... two words: "Thank You"

It was nice to see that there were others out there that were feeling the same things I had been feeling since the war began. I graduated from journalism school four years ago and feel like I have a pretty good grasp of what "journalism" is. Fox is not journalism. Fox is what Bernie Sanders says it is. You look at Fox, you look at Bush, you look at Ken Lay...they're all saying the same things, sometimes line for line. Anyway, I hope your movie penetrates and leads to some changes. This isn't, or at least shouldn't be, about politics. It should be about journalism.

From an anonymous former foxnews.com employee:

After spending nearly two years working at FNC, what I saw in "Outfoxed" was pretty much dead-on accurate. The documentary never loses track on the focus -- how Fox butchers, manipulates and blatantly corrupts journalism, no matter what angle or spin they take. An opposing, leftist agenda could have easily run its course throughout the film, but the scope always remains on Fox’s impact on journalism and news reporting.

As for memos I saw at Fox, there are too many to recall. One stating we were not to call fighters in Iraq "insurgents," that we would call them “terrorists” because they are not a uniformed army (even though they were fighting one). Any Associated Press article challenging or questioning a Bush administration issue was labeled as "unfair and unbalanced," and got dubbed "unfoxxy"... or in other words, not aligned with the Fox agenda. When Rush Limbaugh ran into trouble with ESPN and drugs, we were told to never label him as a conservative or right-wing radio host. However, Al Franken or Michael Moore never get shown without being called a “liberal nut” or “left-wing activist.”

Often, it’s not what they say that makes them Fox… it’s what they choose to leave out.<<

[HysteryDiagnosis]

56. Fox News if you can call it that.... has enough of its own internal

problems... you can do wrong for only so long... and this is the result.

www.outfoxed.org

http://www.outfoxed.org/letters.php

>>From an anonymous current Fox News employee:

So I just watched your DVD, which I bought about 2 wks ago on the internet, and well.... two words: "Thank You"

It was nice to see that there were others out there that were feeling the same things I had been feeling since the war began. I graduated from journalism school four years ago and feel like I have a pretty good grasp of what "journalism" is. Fox is not journalism. Fox is what Bernie Sanders says it is. You look at Fox, you look at Bush, you look at Ken Lay...they're all saying the same things, sometimes line for line. Anyway, I hope your movie penetrates and leads to some changes. This isn't, or at least shouldn't be, about politics. It should be about journalism.

From an anonymous former foxnews.com employee:

After spending nearly two years working at FNC, what I saw in "Outfoxed" was pretty much dead-on accurate. The documentary never loses track on the focus -- how Fox butchers, manipulates and blatantly corrupts journalism, no matter what angle or spin they take. An opposing, leftist agenda could have easily run its course throughout the film, but the scope always remains on Fox’s impact on journalism and news reporting.

As for memos I saw at Fox, there are too many to recall. One stating we were not to call fighters in Iraq "insurgents," that we would call them “terrorists” because they are not a uniformed army (even though they were fighting one). Any Associated Press article challenging or questioning a Bush administration issue was labeled as "unfair and unbalanced," and got dubbed "unfoxxy"... or in other words, not aligned with the Fox agenda. When Rush Limbaugh ran into trouble with ESPN and drugs, we were told to never label him as a conservative or right-wing radio host. However, Al Franken or Michael Moore never get shown without being called a “liberal nut” or “left-wing activist.”

Often, it’s not what they say that makes them Fox… it’s what they choose to leave out.<<

[camero]

19. He should throw them out with a statement

saying they are doing it because Fox has just become a modern version of Pravda and he doesn't have to cater to Republican propaganda. Call it like it is Kerry.

[onehandle]

20. Can't throw them off until after the election.

January 20th. Lock them out of the White House.

[jpak]

59. and kick 'em out of Iraq and Afghanistan too.

That should have been done after Geraldo's breach of security fuck up during the war...

[Catherine Vincent]

21. While they're at it they should throw that cow Candy Crowley off the plane

She's another * shill.

[Mabus]

33. If they toss Candy Cowley out of a plane

I hope they don't do it from more than a few hundred feet otherwise the ensuing impact might be enough to rattle the tectonic plates all the way to Mt. St. Helene's. Could be dangerous.

[LiberalFighter]

93. Plus causing the plane to lurch upwards from the reduced weight

[crossroads]

133. Hurl that cow and save on fuel!

:eyes:

[JSJ]

160. they'll be able to fly higher

[JSJ]

161. drop them as bombs over the freedom-hating terrorists

[countmyvote4real]

40. Would be good for fuel efficiencies and it would clear the air.

Sort of... It doesn't matter. If you are still relying on any domestic broadcast or cable network for your news (cough) disinformation, then you are stuck in a perpetual 1984.

You can't trust any of their shit. You might as well watch reruns of The Brady Bunch. At least that shit doesn't kill you.

[Chimpanzee]

100. I'm from Wisconsin - that's an insult to all cows

I prefer hippopotamus

[et in Arcadia ego...]

22. Cavuto hates America for its freedom.

Screw him and that piece of shit news agency that he works for.

[Sinnerman]

62. Kerry will get through this......& Win...... Big......

[fishwax]

23. That's beyond the pale

fair and balanced my ass.

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[OutsourceBush]

24. kick her out at 30,000 feet

fuk fox

[Langis]

25. Why did they back off?!?!?!

Fuck fox

[Chimpanzee]

102. I think politically they want it to appear that they are fair

enough to give someone a second chance (even tho the person on the plane didn't actually do what pissed them off). But it should also be a warning that this is most definately your LAST CHANCE and you might want to pack a small parachute under your parka.

[Eloriel]

26. Fox never should have been on the plane to start with

A real shame they backed off the threat.

[lebkuchen]

41. Agreed. They have no credibility. Why pretend they do?

[SoCalDem]

29. They should never have been ON the plane..They are propaganda

NOT NEWS...

It's like inviting your worst enemy on vacation with you..:grr:

[saigon68]

57. They are all about PROPAGANDA

And getting President Cheney reSelected and lining the pockets of the Bush Criminals.

[Dover]

31. Hmmm....if bin Laden REALLY feels that way, why doesn't HE take out

Bush and pals?

It's all a bunch of bull. We are being manipulated, and I'd bet my last dime that the tape is a fake. I'm so sick of this sh*t!

[Name removed]

36. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[loudsue]

42. Tight_rope....You didn't mean to reply to Dover in this post, did you???

No, I didn't think so. 'Cause if you did, you'd be WAAAAAY out of line.

Dover is a down and dirty < well, not really "dirty"! >, long time, died in the wool DUer. Long-timers know her well....

She has an opinion about this....it isn't too far out of reach, either. This whole bin laden thingy is pretty new, and there's likely some more analysis that needs to be done on all of it. We're all pretty much caught off guard on this one.

So....who did you mean to reply to???

:kick::kick::kick:

[LiberalFighter]

94. I agree the tape is fake

Didn't they say the tape was professionally done? The others weren't!! MO totally different

[Chimpanzee]

103. Probably filmed in Fox Studio B n/t

[Paradise]

98. Well, something is surely rotten with this scenario! n/t

[Ediacara]

34. I would have ordered the plane landed

Called the police at the airport and had her excorted into custody.

I'd also make sure she knew Fox's days were numbered.

[Swamp Rat]

37. Not only should they kick FOX off the plane, but when Kerry is elected

president, he should exclude the FOXNEWS network from ALL press conferences. This fake news agency must be dismantled, drawn and quartered.

[It was not a pretzel]

38. Throw FOX off at 30000ft.

They're even blatently saying the OBL tape proves he supports Kerry and watches MM.

When Kerry wins he should shold force FAUX to drope the "news channel" tag.

Faux is nothing more than a cable channel version of "Der Stürmer"

[aquart]

39. He was not wrong.

Where does Fox have a license to lie?

[Devils Advocate NZ]

46. Actually they do...

There was a lawsuit where a couple of reporters were fired for refusing to change a story to be more corporate friendly.

They claimed they were being ordered to lie, and that they couldn't be fired for refusing to do so.

The judge ruled Fox was indeed ordering them to lie but that Fox (and all other broadcast media by extension) did not have any requirement to report the truth, and as such their dismissal was legitimate.

So, Fox does indeed have a license to lie.

[Ima]

48. I remember that

I hope that judge is retired or replaced.

[Chimpanzee]

105. and that reminds me off something that really pisses me off

(just about everything does now adays)

There should be a bipartisan board to review political ads for blatent lies before they can be put on the air. All the MSM talks anout the negative ads on both sides, but never point out the difference between Bush commercials which are mainly lies, half-truths, twisted positions, and completely made up 'quotes', and Kerry ads which are only negative because they tell the truth about all the negative, assinine, and potentially illegal things that Bush has ACTUALLY done or said!

[Seabiscuit]

43. Don't just get them off the plane, throw them out in mid-air!!!

Fuck FOX media whores and all they propagate! DIE, FOXIES, DIE!!!

[HR_Pufnstuf]

177. I second that emotion..

[depakid]

44. If Kerry didn't know before

that the irresponsible, unaccountible media is his (and all of our enemy) then I'm hoping that he does now. The right-wing media is playing with fire. Let's hope that someone has the guts to burn them.

[Chimpanzee]

107. I know this is going to sound kinda dumb considering who's

in the oval office now, but hell, Kerry's running for president for crissakes, you don't think he knows who his enemies are?

[lakeguy]

47. kerry elected means no more fox!

at least for important "presidential" type matters anyway. if they schill for bush than out they go if he doesn't win.

[cats4dems]

50. Don't we own the airwaves?

Yank their license and bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

[Chimpanzee]

108. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Mike Powell n/t

[VIHMH5L50P]

51. too little, too late

Throwing the fox reporter off the plane won't make any difference now, the campaign's almost over.

This should have been done in April.

[John_H]

78. Exactly. John King repeats chimp talking points because he knows

he'd have been frozen out long ago if he didn't. Fat Candy and FAUX know that Cutter and Co. will allow them to file snide report after snider report with utter impunity.

[LiberalFighter]

96. John King is another worthless POS

Where do these people get off acting like they are so brilliant?

[atre]

52. It's gonna be a cold four years for Faux

if we pull this one out.

[R Hickey]

58. President Kerry should give WH access to Jon Stewart and deny Fox access

Fox isn't news, Its GOP propaganda. Murdoch and Reverend Moon's propaganda shills should be banned from WH access.

[NJmaverick]

61. They should throw them off the plane while it is in the air

If FOX had any ethics they would have fired Colmes after he made that comment.

[readmylips]

64. Bottom of Article: Chelsea will speak on Tour...yeah!

The smart kids, Kerry, Edwards, Gore and Chelsea Clinton on Tour for John Kerry.

[Chimpanzee]

110. Are you insinuating the Bush girls

are dumb? :toast:

[wellstone_democrat]

159. Well, God knows they can't speak in public. Does that answer

your question?

Touchy about the crown princesses aren't we...

[Flammable Materials]

65. No, let Faux into the press conferences ...

... just treat them the way they've been treating Helen Thomas for the past four years. Unlike dear Ms. Thomas, Faux deserves to be ignored. If they ask a question out of turn (and they get no turns), then eject them from the press conference.

[goodboy]

66. The should throw that PIG candy crowley off while they're at it. nt

[Octafish]

67. From about 10,000 feet.

That's how the toadies of Kissinger and the BFEE did it to political opponents in Chile, Argentian, El Salvador...just about everyplace fascistic with an aircraft and a nearby ocean.

[goodboy]

76. the impact crater she would create would make the arizona meteor

crater look like a pothole.

[Octafish]

81. Perhaps it would lead to the extinction of the conservative dinosaurs.

Enormous ground blast. White-hot dust cloud. Doomsday shroud...Hey! Candy's impact would sound just like like Smirko McCokestroke's policies for Chimpageddon.

Now that meteoric BFEE turd Wolf Blitzer would should straight through the crust, mantle and the sun at the center of the earth and out the other side because he is like a neutrino -- he doesn't have much weight.

BTW: Driving from Chicago to LA, I spent my last bits of cash to stop at what was then the Barringer Meteor Crater. That's big. And to think at one time everybody who was "right" thought it was created by a volcano. One guy -- Barringer -- thought it resulted from impact from outer space.

Thanks for the big laughs and good memories, goodboy!

Tippo: neutrino nut

[goodboy]

84. HA! (tweety style)

The hole may be big enough to hold all the bull shit that constantly comes out of wolfie's mouth. Come to think of it, wolf does kinda look like a dog...do you think he humps Candy's leg, and pees on the carpet?

It the Barringer crater filled with water?

[SlavesandBulldozers]

87. Chimpageddon

hahahhahaha. nice

:thumbsup:

[TahitiNut]

88. Please don't malign our porcine friends. Kandy Crawlly is a waste of ...

... oxygen. She's possessed; insane; both ethically and morally corrupt; a useless pile of protoplasm; too toxic for landfill; a Piggy Nooner wannabe.

[Chimpanzee]

112. Now there you go insulting pigs! Porky cover your ears! n/t

[FizzFuzz]

69. Bring Back the Fairness Doctrine--here's a petition

http://www.fairnessdoctrine.com/

Here's what I wrote in the comments box:
I hope this issue takes highest priority for legislators. There is nothing more compelling at this time in our history. Outlets such as FOX News and CNN which are presently endangering our American ideals of integrity and excellence should be held accountable, faced with consequences and shut down, with a widely publicized explanation for their demise.

--------

Boy oh boy would I love to see Faux go down.

[goodboy]

85. thanks for the link. done! eom

[GinaMaria]

70. Is the national inquirer on the plane?

If not, then faux should not be there either. They are of the same calibur, no? Who invites the enemy into their camp? Why legitimize them by giving them access with real news organizations? There are many good reasons for cutting them off.

[muchacho]

73. Good for them

[muchacho]

74. uh huh

>>
COMM. DIR. STEPHANIE CUTTER BACKTRACKS: "He (Sasso) was wrong to say that. We jumped all over him for it."

I just bet they did....

[Chimpanzee]

113. Yeah they jumped all over him with hugs and kisses n/t

[Child_Of_Isis]

75. I couldn't find the story with that link.

What am I doing wrong?

[China_cat]

79. I couldn't get it either

Looks like they may have gotten rid of it.

[calimary]

114. Nor could I.

Has it been removed?

Frankly, I think they should "discipline" Pox "news" in some way, in January. And for GOD'S SAKES, keep that jackass from the so-called "Talon News" outfit OUTTA THERE!!!!

[John_H]

77. Triumph of the Wimps

COMM. DIR. STEPHANIE CUTTER BACKTRACKS: "He (Sasso) was wrong to say that. We jumped all over him for it."

[dddem]

121. They probably did jump all over him for that one...

I can just imagine - like the Red Sox jumped all over each other at the end of the World Series!

[PleadTheFirst]

80. They should be removed anyway.

It is obvious they are Bush backed propaganda; a Kerry Administration would be crazy to give them the same access they will give other mainstream media.

They should be given the respect and professional courtesy they deserve: NONE.

[candy331]

83. Treat them like they treat others, give them more than a taste of

their own medicine, make them drink the whole bottle. Niceness to them is a weakness so show none, be unwavering and steadfast, steer the course and don't back down, say what you mean and mean what you say. This stuff we have heard for the past 3 years from them and now it is coming back to bite them in the arse so I say bring it on.

Remember the Christian(Christian faith) way is to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" so let's get about the doing to them as they have done.

[Chimpanzee]

117. As long as we turn the other cheek

before we knee them in the nuts

[Chimpanzee]

115. Everyone should get the DVD 'OUTFOXED'

There is ample evidence of Fox's unfair and unbalanced-ness

[proud2BlibKansan]

173. 'Some people say'

it's a great documentary that tells a lot of secrets about Fox that they would rather we not know. :)

[goforit]

82. Should we support the Kerry campaign in FAUX's offices?????

Use the Tom DELAY approach................

BULLY BULLY BULLY!!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

86. Where's the article?

I couldn't find it at that link.

[Democracy Died 2004]

89. Invite all the faux news along

Then ditch em at 30k feet.

[tabasco]

91. Proto-fascist propaganda outlet & enemy of democracy.

Fox is an enemy of this Nation's democracy. Kerry should call them what they are and bar them from his press corps. It is stupid to treat Fox employees as journalists when they are nothing but mouthpieces for one party.

[sonicx]

97. WTF is wrong with Alan Colmes?

you're suppose to attack Bush, not defend Kerry (weak defense, i might add)!!

[Conservativesux]

170. Alan Colmes was cherry picked by Heil Hannity........

.......thats why he has always been nothing but a sidekick to that butterfaced Jack@$$, Hannity!

The show should be called "Hannity and Tonto" !!!!! :(

[The Stranger]

185. Alan Colmes is beneath contempt.

It is hard to tell if it is weakness, utter imbecility, or profound incompetence, but he is beyond a liability. He could do no worse for the Left if he tried. Utterly, utterly disgusting.

[UL_Approved]

109. Waiting for an apology

If FOX said that on national air waves, they are liable for slander charges. Somebody needs to pursue the legal end of this statement. They could receive fines and other legal penalties.

[mahina]

179. Don't you have to be able to prove financial loss as a result of that

specific incident to sue for slander or (if in print) libel?
(-not a lawyer, just took a class on the legal aspects of journalism like a million billion years ago)

[zbdent]

111. I wonder if Cavuto will be as complacent as the rest of the media

when being relegated to the "back of the room" when it comes to press conferences . . .

[Chimpanzee]

119. I havent had this much fun since i came to DU

Thanks for all the great one-liners and hilarious comebacks!

[progressivebydesign]

118. Throw Rupert Murdoch off a plane first, he's responsible.

Never forget that Murdoch, the right wing piece of shit, is responsible for this.. first and foremost. Then we have Roger Aisles.. a m-fucking GOP strategist who is FOX news head.

[AlCzervik]

120. I tried that link but there is no info about this story

is it anywhere else?

[thebaghwan]

122. Yeah, throw her off the fucking plane at about 35,000 feet. Asshole

n/t

[MADem]

123. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer

My strategy for taking them down:

Watch the Faux rep(s) like a hawk and limit access severely until after the election. Ensure they are in the bathroom when any good scoop is given out.

Immediately after the Kerry victory, feed the guy some blatantly false information that can be swiftly disproved, making him look like the angry, bitter, flailing tool he is.

As soon as the Kerry Press Secretary is announced, revert to the old style of seating in the Press Room, based on seniority. This puts Faux in the back row. Alphabetize the newcomers, so AL JAZEERA gets a better seat than Faux.

Appoint Helen Thomas as Honorary Press Secretary Emeritus. Put a nameplate on her chair, have Kerry unveil it. Have Kerry issue an executive order saying that she ALWAYS gets the first question.

Bring back the fairness doctrine, but wait until just after the 2008 election to implement it--fuck 'em, we'll have the wind of incumbency at our backs, may as well use it.

I'd give the press a better pressroom. That dump over the old swimming pool sucks. In fact, I'd restore the swimming pool if I were the Prez! Nixon was an idiot for getting rid of it.

[calimary]

125. EXCELLENT suggestions!

I'd just slightly adjust the directive about waiting until after 2008. The Fairness Doctrine and Equal Time provisions need to be reinstituted - NOW.

But I LOVE the Helen Thomas ideas. She is MORE than deserving.

[MADem]

129. You are way too FAIR

And I know I should be, as well. But I say SCREW THEM. Let's use the power of the incumbency, and introduce the bill in OCT just before the 08 elections. I love giving people a taste of their own bitter medicine.

Yes, I know I am being childish, and you are a better person than me!!!

[calimary]

183. Oh, I SERIOUSLY doubt that... but thanks anyway, MADem! (Hugs!)

I'm not going to gloat, either (at least I don't THINK I'm gonna...) but I DO intend to call every republi-CON's congressional or senate office on Wednesday morning, or whenever, and put them on notice that, just as we were watching the voting, and fighting back against bush on the stump, we will be watching NOW - and they better not pull any shit. Because the mandate is NOT going to be theirs. By ANY stretch of the imagination. AND IT NEVER WAS, even though they behaved as though they had one.

We'll be under NEW MANAGEMENT, and I'm going to make sure they know it. THEIR noses I will be rubbing it in, probably for the rest of this year, and all the way past the inauguration. I plan to show the republi-CON pros the same kindness and congeniality as they've shown MY people. Which is NONE AT ALL.

At that point, you DEFINITELY will be a WAY better person than I am!!!

[AlCzervik]

126. sorry, link has no info, anything new?

[UpsideDownFlag]

127. maybe if Colmes HAD DONE HIS DAMN JOB and defended kerry...

but then, what do i know?

[nibbana]

139. Unfortunately..Colmes was doing his job...No other liberal could

work for FOX....and look a themselves in the mirror..

[The Animator]

128. I think, once Kerry is in office he should...

1. Get Powell's stupid kid out of the FCC's chair position.

2. Appoint someone with a back bone.

3. Get said person to crack down on yellow journalism.

4. Re-instate, the equal time policy.

5. Stop independant news organizations from being gobbled up by large corporations.

6. Bust up current Media Monopolies.

7. Provide grants and initiatives for start up news organizations.

8. Create a special fact-checker division of the F.C.C. and inflict stiff fines to News organizations that mislead people.

9. Enforce the code of jounalistic ethics as a law.

10. Redraw the now, very blured line between News, and Commentary, between fact and opinion, News of Substance, and Fluff.

11. If your going to have a T.V. Show, and it will be called a "News" show, it should actually contain... well.. News. Not someones opinion of the news, but real news. (exemptions for dramas, sitcoms, and the Daily Show)

12. Require by law that any Newspaper forced to print a retraction, do so on the front page. (the penalties is two fold, because it essentially forced to advertise that it made a mistake, and the newspaper must sacrifice prime page real estate because of their screw-up = more motivation to get their facts straight before they go to print.

13. Same as 12, but applied to T.V. News, if force into retraction, said retraction must be aired at the beggining of the show.

[IceOwl]

153. Some of that is already very likely to happen, if Kerry gets elected

Here's an article that may bring us all some hope. It's unfortunate we don't really have these kinds of media controls at all in Canada. The CRTC doesn't seem to really act in anyone's interest.

[carolinalady]

130. they buried it

can not even find it in archive search. I am not surprised. ABC and Fox work together. Here in Wilmington they share the same reporters and weather people, same stories just Fox on one hour earlier. In fact, there was an article in the paper about how they have to coordinate their stories so they don't lead with the same thing.

[AngryOldDem]

132. How was Sasso "wrong"?

Nothing like undercutting your staff.

[SOS]

134. If Bush can stonewall Helen Thomas

after covering nine presidents, Kerry can tell Fox to shove it. No problem.

[Laelth]

137. I would be more likely ...

to give plane and press conference access to The National Enquirer than to Fox if I were Kerry. In fact, The National Enquirer is more credible and less heinous--at least they're not trying to destroy democracy!

btw, MaDem, I agree that the fairness doctrine needs to come back, and waiting 'til 2008 works for me too.

:toast:

-Laelth

[dhinojosa]

140. I think we hate FOX News more than Osama bin Laden

I was just judging by the replies of this thread vs. the thread about the Osama bin Laden Video.

:donut:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

171. Watch who you're calling "we."

[IceOwl]

141. HANNITY and colmes Get Off The Air! NOW!

[BUSHOUT]

142. No news of this at link, and can't find it from searching on web..????

What up?

[AlCzervik]

144. i've been looking as well, still no response.

[maddezmom]

145. that makes 3 of us....looks like it's gone

[StElsewhere]

143. Neil Cavuto is an asswipe

And I LOVE the idea of going after FOX one advertiser at a time. After the election is over and Kerry wins, it will be time to take on a new project.Nothing would bring me greater joy than to watch O'Reilly, Hannity, Cavuto and the rest sweat it out.This would have a two fold effect as we could then watch the media whores at CNN, wonder when their time will be up. I've often wondered why Wolf Blister sic, doesn't just wear a Bush/Cheney campaign button and be done with it.That wildebeest, Candy Crowley, should just start every news report from the Kerry Campaign trail by saying, " I hope he loses, but today John Kerry made a stop in Ohio."
What happened to the Walter Cronkite's and the David Brinkley's of this world? Why are we forced to listen to the likes of a Sean Hannity, who should have been a used car dealer or Candy Crowley,CEO of Big Gals Dating Service ? I know I should be deeply ashamed of myself for what I just wrote, but hey, thank God I'm not, huh?

[IndianaGreen]

146. "Threatens to Throw Fox Off Plane" - Is that with or without a parachute?

The news article does not make that clear...

:eyes:

[bvar22]

147. Why would Osama support Kerry

when bush* has given Osama EVERYTHING he could wish for?

"The following are FACTS, not assessments!"

1) US out of Saudi

2) United the Muslim world against the USA

3) US troops tied down and $BILLIONS wasted in a useless war in Iraq. Killing Iraqis doesn't hurt Osama.

4) Deposed the only secular leader in the Middle East. Saddam was one of Osama's enemies.

5) bush* diverted focus, funds, and personel from the goal of fighting terrorism.

6) bush* (Patriot Act) has begun the implementation of Police State in the once free USA.

7) bush* policies have been the best recruiting tool Osama could ask for, swelling the Al Qaeda ranks exponentially, and vaulted Osama to the position of Leader of Forces against the Great Evil. AlQaeda is now many times richer and more powerful than before the idiot in chief predictible reaction!
bush* has given Osama credibility and legitimacy.Osama is now a True Prophet of the Muslim World,; before bush*, he was just a radical terrorist.


The Kerry campaign should directly rebut FAUX with the above list! bush* is the best thing that ever happened to Osama.

[young_at_heart]

148. I NEVER watch Fox but this Cavuto guy sounds diabolical

WOW...this is certainly fair and balanced...."I thought I saw a button"....to something this serious? Is he part of the human race?

[American Tragedy]

150. There are four days remaining

John Kerry and Co. should definitely thrash it out with these filthy bastards. But not right now. They do not have the time to declare war on Fox News in these critical last days; it will only distract them and is likely to merely hurt them in public perception.

I'm sorry to say it, since I hate them as much as anybody, but that assault will have to be put on hold. They're gonna need to stay focused on the primary enemy, and play nice to every single lurid media outlet till next week. We will be in a much stronger position to deal with these social parasites very soon, just hang in there!

[Festivito]

154. Give FOX their own airplane office complete with holed seat.

Call it a Freedumb of spit zone.

It would not be a good idea to throw FOX off the plane. But, if Kerry does it, I'd support it completely.

[Bullshot]

156. Before you throw the Fox reporter out of the plane...

make sure you're up at least 30,000 feet.

[TaleWgnDg]

158. Fox News is . . .

1. Not a "news" network,
2. And certainly not entertainment, so
3. What is it?
4. A scam game delivered to the lowest possible denominator (audience) with the lowest education, sophistication, and IQ,
5. To fill the coffers from advertising, period.

Profit w/ no morality that skims the edges of law.

Ruport Murdoch (and his kid) and Company including Roger Ailes and Bush family members, e.g., John Ellis, are scum who laugh all the way to the bank having no morals, character nor veracity. All of them are scum. Ever since Murdoch came from Australia via U.K. to America, network television has taken a nose dive.

. . . . . . . . . . . .

[klook]

175. Read "The Selling of the President: 1968" by Joe McGinnis

It's a great analysis of how Roger Ailes ran Nixon's campaign, including phony staged campaign audiences with invitation-only audiences.

[realcountrymusic]

162. Jeezus. For a second I read that as

"Kerry plane blows up. Fox threatens to throw off campaign."


Neil Cavuto is a slimey excuse for spent jet trash.

rcm

[Anakin Skywalker]

165. Cavuto is such an a$$hole!

He is constantly feeding the public Rovian lies. Lou Dobbs is so refreshingly realistic.

[scarface2004]

168. neil cavuto can suck my dick..

before i fuck him in the ass!!!

[Name removed]

169. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[awgoodkitty]

172. Make 'em sign a loyalty oath to Kerry.

THEN chuck 'em off the plane.

[kskiska]

174. Apparently, ABC has updated this link and story no longer appears.

It was on last night's ABC Note.

[Erika]

176. I bought the DVD's of Farenheit 9/11 and Outfoxed...

and loaning them to my Republican friends. I know they are affected because they return it to my office when I'm not there. AND they don't defend Bush/Cheney or Fox anymore.

[nolabels]

178. I only hope they do it in flight

Chutes optional :thumbsup:

[tsuki]

180. Throwing them out of the plane is

too quick. I would have the plane land, send Sasso for take-out, and then for the rest of the trip everytime food was served, snacks, peanuts, whatever, I would make sure the FAUX news team got their falafels. I would bury them under a ton of falafels. Nothing but falafels. All kinds of falafels.

[wysiwyg]

181. I'd like to know why Sasso was "wrong"

No one questions who Cheney or Bush don't allow on their campaign planes. Personally I don't give a damn about "moral superiority" and going out of our way to be fair. Liberals and right-wingers represent different constituencies and we need to be willing to fight for ours even if it means being as "unfair" to right-wingers as they are to us.

Oh yeah... I hope John Kerry gives Helen Thomas the first question during news conferences again.

[yellowcanine]

182. Revenge is best served cold. Plenty of time to punish Fox for their

Bush shilling during a Kerry administration.