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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:36 PM
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GOP lawmaker calls for congressional investigation of CBS for Bush Guard s
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:37 PM by Mr_Spock
GOP lawmaker calls for congressional investigation of CBS for Bush Guard service story
By David Bauder, Associated Press, 9/15/2004 12:43

NEW YORK (AP) A leading House Republican on Wednesday asked for a congressional investigation into disputed documents used by CBS News for a story examining President Bush's Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard.

Some document experts have questioned whether a memo believed to come from one of Bush's commanders at the time was fake. The memo from Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, used by CBS in its ''60 Minutes'' report last week, indicated Bush didn't follow orders to take a physical and that Killian was being pressured to sugarcoat his performance ratings.

''We continue to believe in this story,'' said Betsy West, CBS News' senior vice president.

Rep. Chris Cox, R-Calif., sought an investigation.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/259/politics/GOP_lawmak...
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:37 PM
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1. I sent an email to Rep. Chris Cox
I suggested he also call for a Congressional investigation into the use of forged documents to get approval for the invasion of Iraq.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:38 PM
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3. I sent one to mine
as well accusing the GOP of engaging in Nazi like tactics, which they are
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:38 PM
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2. Great! This will force all the underlying facts to come out nt
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:39 PM
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4. I know - is this guy shit-all stupid or something?
What a buffoon...
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:40 PM
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5. Or maybe Dan Rather is crazy like a fox... nt
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:16 PM
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40. If it's real, will force Bush to testify under oath.
If Bush wants to end this, he should just fess up, produce the documents that prove he completed his duty, took his physical, and was not AWOL
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:40 PM
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6. So sad that they have nothing better to do with their time....
...why aren't they calling for investigations into Fox News? One has to ask who benefits the most from this fiasco....George Bush does. While everyone is running around trying to figure out whether or not some documents are authentic - no one is hearing whats going on in Iraq, etc. If he can keep the country focused on this stuff - then his record as president isn't being discussed and scrutinized by the public.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:43 PM
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8. I dunno, I kind of like his basic integrity being questioned - it's that
"unknown quantity" that can often swing elections.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:42 PM
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7. Bring. It. On.
I bet Rove was wishing this guy would just STFU.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:43 PM
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10. contraire......I wouldn't be surprised if Rove initiated
this whole thing for reasons already stated.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:43 PM
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9. The More Attention This Gets The Better
Let them investigate. It looks petty and partisan and people will keep hearing about the AWOL charges.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:54 PM
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16. I'm beginning to agree, the more attention this gets ...
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:55 PM by annxburns
the better. I read on a diary on Daily Kos that 10% of Bush supporters believe the documents are real. Now that is low number but is still is a significant percentage. If 10% of Bush supporters stay home - then Kerry will win.

I read today that Dan Rather will interview that 84 year old secretary of Bush TANG leader. She says the documents are fake but accurately reflect the situation. Bush had shirked his duty and Killian didn't know what to do about it. It will be interesting to see what Rather airs. IF Rove Co think they can take out an 84 year old Grandma, then we'll see.

I am beginning to think that "It's the Spin, Stupid". It doesn't matter what is real (after all the Swift Vets smears were false)- just that it is out there and talked about. Frankly, the undecideds - who have an dis-proportional effect on the national polls, are probably not real active in politics, they only respond to what people are talking about. This election will be decided on who gets people to the polls and what news stories/memes affect those people who faithfully vote but don't pay much attention to politics. Weird and sad.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:04 PM
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39. I read the secretary in question is "86"!
Not to be nit picking but just wondering what the real age is. Also that she has been flown out to CBS.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:45 PM
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28. Yup. Yup. Yup. I agree. No doubt about it. Bring it on.
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whodiedandmadeUSgod Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:47 PM
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11. Off Subject but where did you get that bumper sticker? I need one!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:29 PM
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32. Link to bumper sticker below. I ordered several and buttons too :)
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:37 PM
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43. yeehaw bumper sticker is:
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:47 PM
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12. Fine. Let's pull Bush in to testify for the record about his service too.
Let him explain why he skipped the drug test, stopped flying after getting $1 million in training, left Texas to work for a political campaign, and never fulfilled his service pledge.

The court-martial the son-of-a-bitch.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:06 PM
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19. I call for investigation into Jr's judgement
Minneapolis - A regular poster at DU on Wednesday asked for a congressional investigation into the president's judgment used by the White House for a wide array of purposes from what cabinet members to appoint to how to handle the nation's finances ...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:26 PM
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22. DAMN STRAIGHT
Let's welcome this supposed investigation, with one condition: that Chimpy be put UNDER OATH to testify as to what exactly is the truth.

Oooh boy would that be something.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:36 PM
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24. I'd LOVE to see him face a Congressional inquiry, alone.
For Chrissake he couldn't even face the 9-11 panel without Dick Cheney being there to hold his hand, and that was held in private.

Can you imagine his shifty eyes and sweating as he faces an adversarial type of panel? He'd probably blow up and spew off a string of obscenities.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:48 PM
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13. we can move on this at the speed that bush investigated 911
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:52 PM
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14. Cox = an idiot looking for a village.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:52 PM
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15. Cox is a freeper!
What a freak! Read what he said about an architect putting info on his website:

"I think it's very, very bad for the country to have anyone putting together information that makes it easier for anyone that wants to injure Americans to do so," said Rep. Chris Cox, R-Calif., chair of the House Homeland Security Committee.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193646/posts
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:55 PM
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17. sure..but lets also investigate the swift boat liars while we're at it.
eom
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:57 PM
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18. WOW, CIA outing, no investigation, Bush AWOL, investigation.
Priorities ladies and gentlemen, priorities.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:33 PM
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23. My thoughts too. I just came on to DU to see what others
were saying about this "investigation" of CBS. I have C-Span on watching the House in open session.

The RETHUGS have been coming to the podium with their items and several of them have started a preamble rant about CBS!! It's OUTRAGEOUS!!

This is a totalitarian hijacking of our democracy, our freedoms of speech, and a DIRECT THREAT to Mr. Dan Rather, Citizen of the United States!!

There is also a move being made by another org....Democracy 21.org to kill the FEC as we know it and/or replace it with a stricter board. This group is pissed that 527's have had TOO MUCH leeway and money in advertising. ANOTHER NAZI TRICK.

My god, people, this is blatant fascism... :nuke:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:17 PM
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20. A whole lot of bluster and bravado today.
A whole lot of nothing tomorrow. These people never stop playing to the cameras. There's not going to be any investigation. It's just more hot air from a GOP gasbag.
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:25 PM
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21. I want an investigation into Bush's desertion from the military
in a time of war. I want an investigation into his donning a medal he didn't earn for photographs he has since disseminated to the public as false advertising of courage he does not possess. I want an investigation into the 1988 Bush campaign's false claims that Bush served in the U.S. Air Force.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:38 PM
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25. Yes. It must be determined why a news company is questioning
der Fuerher!!

Dis Mus Stop At Vonce!!!!!!!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:40 PM
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26. will the Dems never learn...
....how to frame a story or control the news cycle? I'm getting disgusted by the refusal to USE news sources to our advantage.

Now come the Republicans with phase two of this story, designed to deny Kerry air time to get out his message.

Winning campaign strategy and tactics:

1. Define the opponent before he can define himself.

2. Keep him every day from getting his message out by stealing headlines and feeding stories to a lazy press.

That's how it works today.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:41 PM
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27. AND........
....the possibility of a Congressional investigation into a news outlet is HORRIFYING. HORRIFYING.

One step toward tyranny.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:47 PM
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35. I dunno. I'd like to see an investigation into Faux News and CNN
Bring it on.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:44 PM
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41. I agree
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 06:47 PM by jwirr
while they are getting the headlines, John Kerry and John Edwards are being ignored. Dan Rather can fight his own battles as long as help on the way. If we let the Repugs put up another smoke screen no one will hear the issues and we will lose. We need to ignore these asses and continually talk about the issues INCLUDING THE ISSUE OF BUSHIES LYING AND COVERING UP HIS PAST. "NO HONEST MAN PURGES HIS RECORDS! LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!"
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:03 PM
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29. This is such bullshit
Delay should be under investigation first.
How we got into this war should be under investigation
Halliburton should be under investigation
Plame leak where the hell is that
We could go on and on and on.
I hope like hell the dems tell them where they can take their investigation and stick it.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:04 PM
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30. Thank you GOP!
For keeping this issue out there in the headlines....
eventually a real witness will come forward to verify
that AWOL was a druggie who failed to serve his country.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:18 PM
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45. Well, we got Mrs Knox tonight - that was interesting.
Just a crazy series of events - and Dubya deserves every hit he gets too.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:07 PM
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31. And Another Thing
Has anyone noticed how there have been no issues discussed yet.

I wonder if there will really be any debates.

If there are debates, they will all be monitored by Fox.

They are already trying to get the CBS eliminated as having anyone involved in the debates.

They take everything such as these memos and nothing has been discussed about Bush, only about the authenticity of the memos.

They took Kerry's military service & the only thing discussed was if he earned his medals.

And the media plays on.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:35 PM
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33. The government investigates journalists who they don't like?
Sounds like the old Russia or maybe Cuba!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 03:38 PM
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34. How about an investigation of why bush received an honorable discharge?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:06 PM
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36. Hmmm...
How about a Congressional investigation of *DIMSON'S GUARD RECORDS that keep morphing and resurfacing after having been vanished????? CBS and NOT "memo forgeries" are NOT the problem. *dauphins documentation of where he was when he was 'spose to be living up to the MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT in him by the American PEOPLE IS THE PROBLEM.

He didn't keep up HIS end of the bargain then and he is NOT doing so now. What is NOT to get?
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:59 PM
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37. Investigate why watching FOXCNNMSNBC makes people misinformed
Investigate how the press missed the National Guard issue in 1999 but talked incessantly about Gore's ties.

Investigate why television never pointed out the lies told for war.

Investigate how the current democratic candidate was hurt by the nitworks giving 2-3 weeks coverage of smearboat.

Investigate the bribery on the house floor, the withholding of information on the Medicare bill. Investigate the crime wave called Tom Delay.

Investigate why the press never mentions republican crime to the American people.

Investigate why corporations give our representatives money if they don't get anything back.

:mad: :grr: :nuke:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:01 PM
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38. Is this gonna be like WHITEWATER????
Frickin' repuke hypocracy..when we this Country find it repulsive???
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:22 PM
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42. Investigating Clinton scandals is more important!
:eyes:
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:47 PM
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44. Just another frivilous congressional republican inestigation
How many tens of millions will they waste on this?
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:25 PM
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46. OH, piss on Cox!
I'm beginning to get a tad bit impatient with the shitheads in the R party!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:16 PM
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47. Piss cocks?
lol
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