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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:15 PM
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Soros Asks House to Probe Hastert Remarks
Based on Rove's usual modus operandi, I say this means that BushCo is receiving funds from illegal drug groups. BushCo always accuses somebody else of doing what they themselves are doing.

Please rate this story up on yahoo to keep it on the front page.

Wed Sep 15, 7:28 PM ET

By JIM ABRAMS, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Billionaire philanthropist George Soros has asked the House ethics committee to investigate House Speaker Dennis Hastert over comments suggesting that Soros could be receiving money from illegal drug groups.

"This kind of insinuation — that a private United States citizen was in league with drug cartels and may be receiving funds derived from criminal activity — has no place in public discourse," Soros wrote Tuesday to the chair and top Democrat on the panel, Reps. Joel Hefley, R-Col., and Alan Mollohan, D-W.Va.

more....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&ncid=2074&e=6&u=/ap/20040915/ap_on_go_co/soros_hastert_2
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:16 PM
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1. Dennis Hastert should step down for his slanderous remarks. n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:19 PM
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2. Soros has got the bucks to make Hastert's life miserable
Go George!!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:19 PM
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3. Also note the editorial comment at the very bottom of the article
that says, "Soros, a native of communist Hungary...."

Unbelievable.
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wug37 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:29 PM
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4. But if he is, what's wrong with saying that.
It's just some background on the guy. It's not like they said he was a communist or some crap like that. What about Einstein. Is it wrong to say that he came from Nazi Germany?
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:58 PM
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14. There is a lot wrong with that wording...
If they had ever written "Einstein, a native of Nazi Germany..." the uproar would be tremendous.

They always say "An escapee from Nazi Germany". You will notice how they do not say this about Soros, who did escape Hungary, although I'm not sure if it was before or after WW2.

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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:16 PM
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10. I always though Hungary was Hungary before it was Communist.
Nt
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:38 PM
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13. It was, and it shows how little he knows about Hungary.
They didn't adapt well to communism. Don't forget the 1956 revolution that the soviets had to put down.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:29 PM
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5. Thanks for the heads up! I say the pic of Hastert is only second best
to his book pic. The one photoshopped to make him look different than his true self. Every pic and TV appearance I've ever seen of him he looks near what I imagine Satan's evil and angry face would look like.

But I must admit Zell Miller does come close in hatred and evil in the face too.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:42 PM
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6. Hastert and the other Republican Guard are taking their cues
directly from the Hitler/Mussolini playbook. Both would be proud of how well their "offspring" are doing. It is time that everyone admits to what this is - fascism. We need to quit pussy-footing around with euphemism and niceties and start calling spades spades! Fascism may take this country, but by god we should not carry their water for them by not calling them what they are - fascists. This isn't an allusion, these people aren't "like a fascist kind of thing" - this IS fascism, the very face of it. It is time we squared up and looked it in the eye. Don't help the fascists by not always calling them exactly what they actually are.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 04:20 PM
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17. I once thought fascism might be the root but no longer
the issue is that of central control of everything the "binding together" that "fascism" literally means (and as it was included on the back of the US Dime as a symbolic version of E pluibus unum).

In this particular case rather than industry serving the good of the whole, the whole are serving the good of corporations (a reasonable substitute for industry in a post industrial society).

The trouble is that tyranny is the broader category to which fascism, nazism, phalangism, totalitarianism, despotism, monarchism, etc., belong.

There are so many confounding similarities that simply finding reflections of one tyranny in another means rather little.

In this closing portion of scene 1 act III, it appears that Bush and his minions are despots and are comfortably in control.

The Question remains about the plot of scene 2 act III wherein the people either rise up and throw off the yoke of tyranny, or instead adopt a life at the end of a rope...endlessly pulling the barges of the elite to their fortune bearing destinations.
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ChrisK Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:51 PM
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7. Hastert is just playing "stupid".....
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 01:52 PM by ChrisK
And, I might add, doing a very good job of it.

He is "pretending" to not know how Mr Soros has made him money when he knows all too well that he is a self-made person..he is just baiting him and giving the impression that he (Soros) COULD be tied to illegal groups like drug cartels.

Sounds like slander in a semi-vague way but thats just me..Maybe Mr Soros ought to ask where he (Hastert) is getting all that food that is keeping him in the "walking heart attack" category :D


Why ask why

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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:02 PM
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15. I don't know what Hasterts sex life is like,
but he might like to be tied up by other men and have candles stuck up his ass. Of course, I don't know. He may even have an extensive collection of She-male pornography and hire transvestite prostitutes.

The thing is, NO ONE really knows. So we should be able to speculate publicly about it.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:57 PM
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8. Unfortunately, the Amerikan Imperial Congress will investigate NO complain
against THE PARTY.

Period. End of story.

Like asking the Soviet Duma to investigate Molotov or Stalin.

Ain't gonna happen.

God, I miss Free America!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:05 PM
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9. Am I the only one who thinks they'll try to set up any opponent?
Bush is already trying to use legal maneuvers to shut down MoveOn and America Coming Together. I've long thought the administration or the GOP in general would try to go after Soros on some trumped-up charges.

For those of you who think I'm being paranoid, I would say we already know the Bush team will use any technique to get its way, legal or not, though preferably under cover of darkness. Keep an eye out.

Oh, and keep pressure on Hastert.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:18 PM
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11. Proof Hastert is benefiting from drug dealers and child prostitution
Proof Hastert, Delay and Lott are benefiting from drug dealers and child prostitution.


(Investigative reporters actually found Hastert, Delay and Lott benefiting from and creating drug trade/terrorism in all of South America. They changed the Patriot Act NOT to include American tobacco companies who are hiring and enlisting gangsters, drug dealers and terrorist in South America to illegally smuggle American tobacco products into SA fraudulently evading taxes in those countries. This American money being paid to the smugglers is their seed money which they use in their other operations; drug trafficking, child prostitution, explosive smuggling, bio waste… Let’s see the Congressional Investigation into this and not CBS!) (Please see report at bottom)

Big Tobacco - by Mark Schapiro

Tobacco is one of the most globalized industries on the planet. More cigarettes are traded than any other single product, some trillion "sticks," as they're known in the business, passing international borders each year. As a result, American brands have been propelled into every corner of the world, with just four companies controlling 70 percent of the global market. Marlboro, Kool, Kent: They have become as omnipresent around the world as they are here in the United States. With declining sales in this country, foreign markets have become increasingly critical to the tobacco companies' financial health: The top US tobacco firms now earn more from cigarettes sold abroad than in the United States. How they got there is a tale that leads straight into a global underground of smugglers and money launderers who have played a key role in facilitating the tobacco companies' entry into foreign markets…

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020506&s=schapiro

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How Big Tobacco Subverted Anti-Terror Act

How Big Tobacco nicked terror act Firms accused of smuggling cigarettes feared language on laundering

Mark Shaprio
MSNBC

NEW YORK, June 13 — On the one-month anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the tobacco industry took aim at Congress’ first effort to respond to the crisis with a major piece of new legislation — the Patriot Act. Why would America’s largest tobacco companies take an interest in a bill designed to go after America’s terrorist adversaries?

THE ANSWER: legal liability. Not that the tobacco companies are terrorists, but some of their marketing and distribution strategies look awfully similar to the illegal financing systems used by terrorists. At least they do from the U.S. Department of Justice perspective.

To get to the bottom of this story, we need to return to those traumatized days last fall, in which our lives were filled with fears of another terrorist attack, the retaliation of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and shock and horror at the revelation that anthrax had contaminated the halls of
Congress.

http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/intl-tobacco/2002q2/000750.html

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Cigarette giant denies smoking leads to cancer - Imperial Tobacco

A giant British tobacco company is to take the unprecedented step this week of denying there is a proven causal link between smoking and lung cancer in the first case against a cigarette firm to go to a UK court.

The unique defense, to be heard in Scotland's Court of Session, denies decades of scientific proof of such a link, which was accepted by the British Government in 1957.

Imperial Tobacco is being sued for £500,000 (US$835,000) by Margaret McTear, whose husband, Alf, a 60-a-day smoker from Beith near Glasgow, died of lung cancer in 1993. The case, which starts tomorrow, will be scrutinized across Europe by lawyers who want to bring similar actions against tobacco firms.


http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2003/10/06/2003070628
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:34 PM
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12. They were talking about that on air america earlier today
They also said that hastert had accused Russ Feingold of financing his re-election campaign with money made from human trafficking in the former USSR. They had a bunch of other examples of him throwing about other wild accusations, such as accusing doctors without borders of getting funding by selling human organs harvested from Chinese political prisoners. Can you say :wtf:
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:09 PM
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16. Dont let up soros!
keep attacking, next these assholes will think again before doing this insinuation bullshit.
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