Pizza Deliveryman Crushed By Own Car Was Senate Candidate

[Freddie Stubbs]

David Segal Ran As Libertarian Candidate For U.S. Senate Seat

POSTED: 6:24 am MDT September 20, 2004

LONGMONT, Colo. -- A pizza delivery man crushed by his own car after it became stuck on some small trees was a former Libertarian Party candidate for the U.S. Senate.

David Segal, 57, died late Thursday while delivering a pizza in the Conifer area. He had backed into a driveway and tried to turn around but became stuck on small trees and tree stumps, Colorado State Patrol spokesman Ron Watkins said.

Segal got out of his Subaru station wagon and laid down on the ground to try to free the vehicle, but it broke free and crushed him.

An employee of the Domino's Pizza restaurant where Segal worked reported him missing about 11 p.m. Thursday, but deputies with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department could not locate him.

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[UpInArms]

1. very sad story

cars are beasts sometimes with minds of their own (especially those demonic Subies :evilgrin: )

Segal, however, registered as a Republican in September 2003, according to state records.

guess that car didn't want this guy casting his vote :shrug:

[Cocoa]

2. something like this happened in the Bush family

a domestic servant for one of the brothers got run over by her own car.

[Eloriel]

5. Yeah, and that one was a lot more suspicious than this one n/t

[MagickMuffin]

20. opps posted twice

[MagickMuffin]

21. You are correct

Bertha Champagne
Household servant for Marvin Bush, brother of the President, was found crushed to death by her own vehicle in a driveway in front of the Bush family home in the Alexandria section of Fairfax County on September 29, 2003. The vehicle was supposedly left in gear. No explanations have been offered as to why the vehicle did not move until Champagne was in a position to be crushed. There is a rumor that Champagne may have had incriminating knowledge of connections between the 9-11 hijackings and Marvin Bush's companies.

[DS1]

3. This is called instant runoff voting

:bounce:

[Nevernose]

4. That was bad on so many levels...

Good pun, though. Couldn't resist, could you?

[DS1]

16. No, apparently I couldn't, but it was a weighty decision

Certainly not one to be treated lightly, and definitely one that could leave a lasting impression.

[Almost_there]

6. This is going to show up on the Darwinian awards...

I hate to say it, but, this guy was just not long for this world. I'd expect to see this story on Chuck Shepard's News of the Weird or the Darwinian Awards.

His car was evidently not happy with him running as a Libertarian. Perhaps he should have turned the car off or put it in "Park". Although it doesn't mention any of that in the story, I assume the car was both on AND in drive...

~Almost

[AP]

8. A 57 year old delivering pizzas for Dominos at 11pm. I think we can...

...forgive him momentary bad judgment.

The guy was probably exhausted and worried that he'd lose his job if he didn't get a move on. And he made it 57 years -- way past child-rearing years, so I'm not sure Darwin applies.

If he had supported Democrats, he might hot have been in that wrong place at that wrong time. That was probably the part of this story that was bad judgment.

[uncle ray]

12. forgiving his bad judgement don't bring him back.

when you're messing around with cars, there is no such thing as letting your judgement lapse, same as operating heavy equipment etc. i don't care if you're just driving down the damn road, it requires your undivided attention! you just DON'T get out of the car with it in gear and LAY DOWN in front of it! and FWIW you'd have to try pretty damn hard to get a subaru stuck on a couple of small trees, like intoxicated try hard.

yes, darwinisim at work, should this guy have a second chance if the car hand instead, run over a 3 year old girl? think about it, he wasn't paying attention enough to not avoid hitting the trees in the first place. the man shouldn't have been driving. why? i don't know, but his actions speak for themselves.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. My, my...another humanitarian in action. Nice expression of sympathy...

...for the death of another human being in unfortunate circumstances.

What do you know about the term "karma"?

[uncle ray]

15. oh, i'm very sympathetic

but i also work on cars every day, i know they are killers. i have slid out from under cars on jackstands just before they came crshing down, i got scars and cuts and bruises from working on them, i've been crushed between a farm tractor driven by a teenage girl and an immobile object. i've got bad knees from kneeling on a bumper when a jack failed and the car dropped two feet. i've had rusty bits fished out of my eye. all this despite safety precautions. with the close calls i've had, i damn well know better than to lay in front of a running car trying to get it unstuck! clearly you missed my point. it's not that i don't feel any compassion for this man, it's that there is no second chances for poor judgement when dealing with a couple tons of steel. having worked in industiral environments, i've seen very graphically what happens when people fail to think, or inexperienced people do things they shouldn't be doing. i've picked up body parts with my own hands from a person who thought he could go poking around a running machine.

we live, we die. sorry if i don't cry for every single person who dies of unfortunate circumstances of their own doing. we are not all destined to live forever.

i know what karma is, and believe me, it's one of the very few things i have faith in. thanks for implying that i should have bad karma. i will sleep well, knowing karma is doing it's job.:hi:

[DS1]

17. no way, he was doing what he loved, working hard for the American dream

he's a libertarian, he'd understand my complete lack of remorse and compassion for the old codger.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. I guess you forgot that he was killed. Does that not concern you...

...or are you to busy trying to score political points?

[Almost_there]

22. Yes, he was killed. You are 100% correct.

I am sympathetic towards his family and loved ones, of course. However, he could have certainly served them better by not taking short cuts, and thinking about what he was doing.

People by the thousands die everyday, Media. I believe that finding humor in a situation that could have been avoided had this hard working gentleman used common sense doesn't preclude me from feeling sorry for those he left behind. I see your post dripping with sympathy, or is that simply that you wish to take a contratian view to an article that was published because he was killed by his own stupidity?

Ask yourself this. Would this article have been published PERIOD had he fallen down a flight of stairs and broken his neck? Or if he had been in a one car automobile accident, having run off the road after a long day at work? We don't hear about the 40,000+ highway deaths every day, do we? We hear only of the interesting, spectacular, or ones that could have been avoided had he used his noggin.

So, in response to you, yes, I do have sympathy for his family, assuming he had any. (The article doesn't touch on that, does it?) But, do I think what he did was stupid? Yes, it cost him his life. Can you find humor in every day situations? I don't know. Perhaps you should ask yourself that. Maybe you're living without enough laughter. I don't know. Did I find his death tragic? Yes. And humourous? Yes. I did. Sue me.

~Almost

[Almost_there]

23. And remind me how to score "political points?"

I was so baffled by this statement I previously forgot to reply. I didn't want to edit my other post, so, I'll ask you... what the heck are you talking about? Political points? A man killed by his car delivering a pizza when he crawls under it to free it? Is that worth political points? I had no idea! I didn't even know that you kept score!! Sweet! Am I winning?

[Ellen Forradalom]

7. Well, this was a slightly less self-destructive candidacy than Alan Keyes'

At least this fellow won't be emitting the kind of jaw-dropping utterances that Keyes specializes in.

[Warpy]

9. I wonder what his job was

before a long unemployment in the Bush economy forced him to take a job as a pizza guy.

Let's face it, even in other rotten economies, 57 year old pizza guys were highly unusual. Now they're common, along with 57 year old burger flippers and 57 year old Walmart stockboys.

This is a tragic tale on a whole lot of levels.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

18. I'll bet engineer or computer techy

Most libertarians that I run across online are either engineers of in the infotech biz in some way. Or they are small buisnessmen.

I wonder what he was doing when he ran for Senate...I'll bet he wasn't a pizza delivery boy.

Or, he could have owned the franchise, too.....

[Surf Cowboy]

10. Is it me, or is lying under your car to remove it from an undercar

obstruction rather akin to cleaning a loaded pistol and looking down the barrel?

I second the nomination for the Darwin Award.

[Algorem]

11. If it wasn't for all the taxation and all he should've been free from,

he would've run himself over with a much more expensive car.

[Lexboy1981]

19. so sad

[not fooled]

24. It's the government's fault

"If it wasn't for all the taxation and all he should've been free from,
he would've run himself over with a much more expensive car."

Not to mention that if the gov't hadn't been stealing his money all these years to build and maintain roads, there wouldn't even BE any cars. So, definitely, it's the government's fault.

[David Zephyr]

25. A "Free Marketeer" Libertarian Reduced to Delivering Pizzas to Survive

and using and depreciating his own vehicle for his employer.

Sorry this fellow died.

The story behind it though is equally revealing.

Folks, the "invisible hand" of capitalism is invisible because it does not exist. There is no holy spirit in economics.