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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:36 AM
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Arms-Grade Uranium Reported at Iran Plant
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&nci...

VIENNA, Austria - U.N. inspectors have found traces of highly enriched, weapons-grade uranium at an Iranian nuclear facility, a senior diplomat said Tuesday, citing a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The find heightened concerns that Tehran may be running a secret nuclear weapons program.

Agency inspectors found "particles" of highly enriched uranium that could be used in a weapons program at the facility at Natanz, said the diplomat, who covers the activities of the U.N. nuclear watchdog and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The United States has accused Iran of developing a clandestine nuclear weapons program, violating the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty barring the spread of atomic weapons.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:40 AM
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1. Don't pay any attention to Iraq.
Everything is fine in Iraq.
Don't think about North Korea either.
Everything is fine there too.
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MostlyBlackCat2 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:41 AM
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2. here we go again.
deja vu anyone? maybe they have a pipeline we're interested in resurrecting too.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:49 AM
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3. do these inspectors go to Israel?
just wondering if they go to all countries in the middle east.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:15 PM
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8. I'd rather Israel have nukes..
Than the religious extremists running Iran. Deterrence doesn't work with religious extremists who think suicide sends them to God. Which nation with nukes threatens us more?
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:28 PM
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11. in broad destablization terms?
Edited on Tue Aug-26-03 12:47 PM by StandWatie
Israel without a doubt.

An Iranian nuke would actually bring a certain amount of stability to the region vs. the military hegemony of Israel vs. everyone else.

on edit: As long as we are worrying about Fundamentalist Armagedon type politics I'd suggest Israel Shahak's Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel and a long, hard look at the story of Samson.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 01:50 PM
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14. the Jewish religious nuts don't govern Israel...
The Likud is pretty secular. As far as Israel hegemony, give me a break if Israel was so imperialistic it could easily take over Syria and Jordan.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 01:52 PM
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15. they could in the future
Edited on Tue Aug-26-03 02:08 PM by StandWatie
highest birthrate out there is among the very religious and the secular actually have a negative population growth through emmigration. Likud also rules only through powersharing with Shas.

on edit: They already tried Lebanon and it took them two decades to quit trying and get back to trying to keep the West Bank and Gaza under their thumb.

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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 01:58 PM
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18. doubtfully...
The Orthodox parties aren't popular at all. The clerics in Iran weren't even elected. Israelis can vote Sharon out of office unlike in Iran.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 01:55 PM
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17. an Iranian nuke certainly wouldn't breed stability..
But Israeli military strength is what prevented Saddam from having a nuclear reactor in 81. It amazes me that you supposed anti-nuclear peace activists sure don't mind theocratic Islamists developing nukes as long as it'll weaken the US and Israel.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 02:00 PM
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20. I'm not suggesting...
We invade Iran by the way.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 02:09 PM
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22. I'm not anti-nuclear
as a matter of fact I think the IMF should be required to fund a nuke for every country on the globe as it seems to be the only thing to keep other countries from screwing around in your affairs.
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Kbowe Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 02:00 PM
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19. I guess it works with extremists who think slaughtering Arabs gets
them to God? Israel is a treacerous nation. They have stolen nuclear material from the US, sold weapons secretes to S. Aftica, sent weapons to Iran when the US was fighting Iran using Iraq, bombed one of our ships (the Liberty) killing our men, exploding bombs and killing people and blaming it on Arabs. It's a nation founded on deceit. How can we in good conscience support such a nation. Were it not for the money and influence of the Zionist in America we would be at war with such a nation, not sending tax dollars and spending the lives of our children for their interests.
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MaverickX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 02:06 PM
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21. you're right of course..
Every problem the world faces can be blamed on Israel. Man, you list almost every myth Hamas says about Israel. You're too silly to debate. Israel has done shitty things but so do most nations who are surrounded by people intent on destroying them. The USS Liberty was ruled an accident by everyone who investigated it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:19 PM
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10. Why? Think we should invade?
We won't. They have no oil. No minerals. Nothing of value except what they wrested with sweat from the desert.

But you keep trying.
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Abaques Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:47 PM
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13. They have lots of oil
But they also have a land mass two or three times the size of iraq and they haven't been under constant bombing for 10 years.

We won't invade Iran not because they don't have anything they want (they do), but because even Bushco should be able to realize that with all of our troops commited to Iraq (and most of them need to stay that to keep the uprisings down) we simply do not have enough troops to invade and occupy Iran.


I would say that surgical strikes are a much bigger possibility. But with so many of our troops just across the border, I feel that surgical strikes would most likely make Iran take a much more active role in the Iraqi resistance.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:55 AM
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4. record budget shortfall
the big news that they don't want us to think about so focus on Iran not on the budget
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:58 AM
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5. this is good news
Perhaps Israel will now stop threatening to nuke the neighbours.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 11:04 AM
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6. This is old news. Link
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L1745630.htm

It's starting to look like all the "distraction" theorists are right.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 11:41 AM
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7. Blah , blah blah , blah ....blah , blah blah.......
distractions, distortions,blah , blah, lies, innuendos ,blah, crap, bullshit, nonsense ,blah,blah, balh, crying wolf, the sky is falling etc
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:16 PM
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9. lol
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:43 PM
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12. u.n. inspector speaking on
condition of anonymity? u.s. accusations thrown at tehran?
my blood is going on a slow boil -- just propaganda, bullshit.
never mind the deficit is going up like a nuke -- look at the maybe, could be, might be, smells like a bomb in iran.
never mind we have an admin that will go to war because their asses itch.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 01:54 PM
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16. Goody! Let's Roll!
Maybe we can have an underfunded military presence in a newly formed quagmire there, too!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 02:45 PM
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23. Condoleeza Rice solves "African Uranium" mystery!
"The text of the SOTU actually said Iran, but the President thought it said Iraq. He was only one letter off," said National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice. "What is one letter against 16 words? This should lay the the matter to rest for all fair minded patriotic Americans."
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 03:18 PM
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24. Ah...uranium particles in Iran!
Give me a headline to go with this! The wind is going out of the Lacey and Kobe stories and the bastards are noticing Iraq again!
Hey! There's urinals over here too! Get the camera!
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