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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:06 PM
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McLauglhin Group reported today: that 937 killed, 26,000 amputied/wounded
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 12:09 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
and 30,000 dead civilian Iraqis...



could these numbers be correct?

I will post transcript when TMG makes it available

http://www.mclaughlin.com/index.asp
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:08 PM
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1. Why are the other networks reporting 970+ killed?
This is crazy! Other than a timing diff., which wouldn't account for more than 50 diff, how the hell does any of them expect to be believed?
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:09 PM
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2. It's 983 (US troops) killed, not 931....
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 12:13 PM by blitzen
Are they trying to lowball it with the hope that it doesn't reach 1000 before the election?

http://icasualties.org/oif/

The same site has the number of wounded US troops at 6497. That is probably the really seriously wounded.
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GaryL Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:19 PM
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3. We've already hit 1000.
The web site only reports deaths where next of kin has been notified. Salon had an article about this.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:46 PM
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16. I think many are excluding "accidental" deaths
As if these people would have died even if they hadn't been put in harm's way...:grr:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:20 PM
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4. Link from BuzzFlash: 1000+ killed already?
Have Total U.S. GI Casualties Surpassed 1,000 in Iraq, but the Press Has Missed the Grim Bush Legacy? (Read Down) 9/5

http://www.juancole.com/2004_09_01_juancole_archive.html#109411260427557669
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:59 PM
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6. Lunaville says that Global Securities has double-counted some...

http://www.lunaville.com/blogging/

scroll down to near the bottom



"As I mentioned earlier The Global Security Casualty website is not a reliable source for casualty information. In August alone they have 6 duplications.

#28 Lance Cpl. Kane M. Funke is the same as #29 U/I pending notification of next-of-kin

#20 U/I pending notification of next-of-kin is the same as # 19 Spc. Joshua I. Bunch

# 7 U/I pending notification of next-of-kin is the same as # 3 Sgt. Juan Calderon Jr.

# 8 U/I pending notification is the same death referenced for #6 Cpl. Dean P. Pratt

# 32 U/I pending notification is the same death identified as #39 Sgt. David M. Heath

# 48 U/I pending notification is the same as # 47 Cpl. Brad P. McCormick

Anyone using the The Global Security Casualty site for data is being played for a fool."
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:44 PM
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15. "Double count" sounds like
Doublespeak.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:31 PM
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5. 26,000 wounded sounds more than a little high as well.___n/t
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 01:27 PM
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8. i actually thought that number was a bit low eom
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:28 PM
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14. HBO has a special on about children of war
The opening message is at the beginning of the last century, 9 out of 10 casualties in war were soldiers. In the beginningof this century, 9 out of 10 casualties in war are civilians.
So, when the Pentagon brag about 40 dead in fallujah fighting, multiply by 9 or 10 the civilian body count.

When a bomb kills tens, it wounds tens more. so the wounded is very high.

we re not getting an accurate count because the Administration wants Americans to support the slaughter. if we knew the true numbers of innocent dead and wounded (Americans included) REASONABLE people would be outraged.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:54 PM
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17. I believe 26,000 is spot on
Months ago Col Hackworth was ranting about casualties being about 20,000 while the official numbers were reported around 4,000. Through unverifiable sources I heard the numbers to be at that time around 14,000. Who the heck do you believe?

Evidence that numbers have been jigged was confirmed when I read an article written by an embedded journalist who was assigned to an evac helicopter. I wish I could locate the article because it was very telling if you read between the lines. The journalist described an incident where ground soldiers were mad at the pilot because he wouldn't transport dead troops, only wounded. They were that busy! This one helicopter averaged one mission every three hours, over eight wounded transported in a twenty-four hour period. I believe this was typical and we have more than one evac helicopter in Iraq, yet officially only 300 causalties were reported that month. Something stinks!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 01:06 PM
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7. I read an article a month ago stating 37,000 Iraqis killed....
I believe a few hundred more have been added in the month of August...

:(
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 02:13 PM
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9. Yeah, but it's okay cause Iraqi civilians don't count.
So what if we killed 10 times as many civilians as died on 9/11? It's not like they were Americans and only American blood matters.

(yes I am being facetious, but I'd bet you dollars to donuts the average American would say it was worth it because it ain't our blood being spilled)
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 03:04 PM
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10. Yes, most of those who feel this way consider themselves "Christians".
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:55 PM
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11. Kerry said today he'd occupy Iraq for up to another four years
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:04 PM
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12. 993
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:11 PM
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13. I think this is a pretty accurate site.
It will hit 1000 in a couple of days.
:cry:
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